New Sask Regulations, .223 owners may be happy

It might now be "legal" but I am not sure that is even a "good", let alone "best", choice for game over, say, 250 pounds live weight. As I read it, still must use expanding bullets, not full metal jackets, for big game hunting. No doubt someone will try it with 40 or 50 grain V-Max and similar, but I guess those bullets are also available for larger calibers than .224".
 
it's actually page 11 of the guide Kelly (pg 13 of the pdf)

Big Game
It is a violation too:
hunt big game with:
> any cartridge with an empty
cartridge case length of less
than 32 mm (this includes most
handgun cartridges and all
rimfire cartridges).
> any centre fire rifle cartridge of
.17 calibre.
> or any of the following
cartridges: .22 Hornet, .22 KHornet,
.218 Bee, .25-20
Winchester, .30 Carbine, .32-20
Winchester, .357 Magnum, .41
Remington Magnum, .44-40
Winchester or .45 Colt.
> full metal-jacketed, hardpoint,
non-expanding bullets.
> a pneumatic firearm or device
propelling arrows, crossbow bolts
or projectiles by compressed air,
nitrogen, carbon dioxide or any
other gas. This includes devices
such as the air bow or large
calibre air rifles.
> a slingbow or similar elastic
powered devices.
> a pistol or revolver.
> a bow with a draw weight of less
than 18.2 kilograms (40 pounds)
and arrowheads of less than 2.2
centimetres (7/8 inch) in
diameter.
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It looks to me like they removed the caliber restriction, other than .17 and a few pistol and varmint calibers, making case length the deciding factor.
They should have added SPSX and Varmint Grenade type bullets to the FMJ list...
 
Potashminer said:
It might now be "legal" but I am not sure that is even a "good", let alone "best", choice for game over, say, 250 pounds live weight. As I read it, still must use expanding bullets, not full metal jackets, for big game hunting. No doubt someone will try it with 40 or 50 grain V-Max and similar, but I guess those bullets are also available for larger calibers than .224".
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I am sure competent hunters understand this.
 
BrotherRockeye said:
it's actually page 11 of the guide Kelly



It looks to me like they removed the caliber restriction, other than .17 and a few pistol and varmint calibers, making case length the deciding factor.
They should have added SPSX and Varmint Grenade type bullets to the FMJ list...
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Ok, you can fine me for the misprint. :)

Info doesn't change.
 
BrotherRockeye said:
Not a fine-able offence lol I just went looking on pg 13 and couldn't find it.




My concern is the other 80% that will take their .223 elk hunting...
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Personally, I don't see too many .223 owners pushing the limits too badly, but maybe.

A 22-250 for deer or antelope with heavy projectiles would be quite nice but since I don't own one, 7mm minimum it has to be.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Personally, I don't see too many .223 owners pushing the limits too badly, but maybe.

A 22-250 for deer or antelope with heavy projectiles would be quite nice but since I don't own one, 7mm minimum it has to be.
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That's common sense right there. (something that is close to a super power these days) I used the parent 250Sav for deer and dogs for years.

The new regs won't change how I do things, although I wonder what exactly prompted this change...

I have already heard "I can use my .204 for deer now" and that got me thinking...
 
I feel that the new regulations are foolish. There are too many idiots who do not understand the differences between bullets types. Too many guys will simply buy the cheapest bulk 223 ammo and off they go. 204 Ruger for Sask Whitetail is insane. Likely, we will see more wounded animals in the province this year. And, to remove cartridges like the 357 Mag and 45 Colt.... are you kidding. Funny talking to a few of the CO's in my neck of the woods and they are just shaking their heads at the craziness. They said they are just waiting for the dummies who will use FMJ bullets out of their 223s.
I to am asking the same you you are Rockeye.... What prompted the changes?
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Personally, I don't see too many .223 owners pushing the limits too badly, but maybe.

A 22-250 for deer or antelope with heavy projectiles would be quite nice but since I don't own one, 7mm minimum it has to be.
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Almost all 22-250 have slow twist 1-12...1-14 twist. So those ones are limited to about 55gr at most.

I dont see this as being good. All it takes is some newbie, overconfident but experienced hunter, or "expert". Then we get to see suffering game, on communist broadcasting corporation Saskatoon or Regina.
 
The limitation of a high velocity .22 on game lies in the construction of the bullet it fires. What is of concern are the people who use .22 centrerfires without any knowledge of bullet construction, or how that construction affects terminal performance. They almost always seek out the least expensive ammo they can find, without giving any thought to the bullet they'll shoot at a game animal, beyond the fact that its a soft point. If they were asked about rate of twist and bullet length, chances are they would have no idea, "I have a .223 rifle, the ammo is stamped .223, of course it'll work, WTF are you talking about??!!" That is the best argument there is for imposing a minimum caliber rule, even though I'm not in favor of the decision making process being removed from a knowledgeable hunter, which is a slippery slope full of unintended consequences.
 
And those with the most vocal opinions have never shot a head of game with a .22 CF but are ballistic experts...................yet stupidly ban pistol and carbine calibers that have worked for years.Likely written by an idiot who has never left his desk for 30 years.Alberta had similar stupidity on cartridge length a few years back.
 
fuzzy39 said:
I feel that the new regulations are foolish. There are too many idiots who do not understand the differences between bullets types. Too many guys will simply buy the cheapest bulk 223 ammo and off they go. 204 Ruger for Sask Whitetail is insane. Likely, we will see more wounded animals in the province this year. And, to remove cartridges like the 357 Mag and 45 Colt.... are you kidding. Funny talking to a few of the CO's in my neck of the woods and they are just shaking their heads at the craziness. They said they are just waiting for the dummies who will use FMJ bullets out of their 223s.
I to am asking the same you you are Rockeye.... What prompted the changes?
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It doesn't stop the ones who fire the wrong projectiles out of rifles over 23 cal now does it?

Poor shot placement, poor shooting skills, bad choice of bullets , that won't change at all.

Wonder how many use 7.62 x 39 , and it's legal?
 
nowarningshot said:
Almost all 22-250 have slow twist 1-12...1-14 twist. So those ones are limited to about 55gr at most.

I dont see this as being good. All it takes is some newbie, overconfident but experienced hunter, or "expert". Then we get to see suffering game, on communist broadcasting corporation Saskatoon or Regina.
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We see the suffering game either way regardless of chambering, I'd love a 1-8 or 1-9 22 call rifle.

I actually think the ones that chose to use their 22 cal center fire are going to be more diligent than we give them credit for.

Everyone always assumes the worst.
 
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