New YouTube video. Brian Gallup Hunts Cape Buffalo with a .577 NE Single Shot.

Firstly, I congratulate you on a succesful Safari Hunt. Well done.

With a post like this:

fastcutcnc said:
mbogo3. Amen! A 375hh with a heart shot makes them run like a scalded cat for 35 - 45 yrs usually.
With the .577 (neart shot) They just hunch up and look for the nearest thorn tree to lie down under.
The Ph's had not seen anything like it.
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You are guaranteed to get different opinions. I can assure you that Ardent and Hoyts opinions are valid.

How you respond to the opinions are up to you. I do not for one second believe they were hinting that other rounds are more efficient rather that the .577 is not the be-all-end-all. The magic is in the shot placement.

fastcutcnc said:
Hoytcanon. I don't konw why my post on my experience with my .577NN is attracting jerks. Don't you two have anything better to do.
1. Read the post correctly. That would be a good place for you to start.
2. The history of the 303 British as used by the Boers for a farm rifle is common knowledge.
3. Your tone is disrespectful. Please realize that I am just sharing African hunting knowledge /experience with fellow hunter. I am not looking for a debate with a loose talking wannabe.
4. You don't read posts correctly but you have done 30-40 barrel stubb jobs. Ya' right. You and Ardent, who says that a 375 kills better than a 577, should get married.

PS. A Dirty Harry picture. Perfect for a wannabe.
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Lastly, elephants have been killed with .22 LR as well as .303 etc...
 
Well from the pics I've seen. Hoyt is definitely the butch. Sorry ardent. Lol


But Hoyt is the resident HnR guy. I've seen dozens of his get sold in the EE and most likely missed many others
 
Gatehouse, Thank you for your comments. I have tried to post photos but am just too dumb! I have some nice close-up pics. that I would send you if you know how to post them. (Sorry to be a nuisance. I have been looking for someone to impose upon, and for your kindness I have asked you. "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished".)
My email address is brian@fastcutcnc.com

I used a 700 grain hard cast bullet at 1800 fps. 116 grains of Vit. 550. That is a mild load. ( Slow powder with flat pressure curve helps keep the pressure down for the relatively weak action.)
I killed three cape buffalo cows with it on this trip. All close range heart shots and the all reacted the same as in the video. I have photos of the bullets and the hearts.
I will have a switch barrel for it for plains game. Maybe .356 winchester just for something different.

Pemberton! My sister Meg, the potter, lives there. Nice country.

I like your line about the 375 Ruger and I agree. Perfect cartridge. I converted a Tikka T3 to 375 Ruger and used a 3 groove pacnor 26 inch heavy barrel. I haven't shot it yet.
I have used 300 gr. NorthFork and Cutting Edge Bullets solids for cape buffalo bulls in 375 and really liked them. Also, used 458 Lott with them. Nice bullet.

Have another single shot, stub barrel converion project on the go. 50-110 Winchester. Probably a 450 grain CEB bullet at 1900 fps. Will have a very long throat for seating a monolithic bullet real shallow to get 80 grains of N540 in. (That's one of the few advantages of a single shot. Also they are 5-6 inches shorter than long actions bolt actions.)

Please think about posting the photos for me. I would greatly appreciate it. I would sure like to share them. It is a very interesting little odd-ball project for fellow gun nuts. Brian
 
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Ardent said:
Merely a strategic choice. Safety rule #1: Whenever hunting Grizzlies make sure you're faster than your partner.
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Yeeeeeaaah, well... don't bet the farm on being faster... bad knees, yes sure... but long legs and big lungs... and with the right motivation (griz)... step aside Speedy Gonzales.
 
fastcutcnc said:
Gatehouse, Thank you for your comments. I have tried to post photos but am just too dumb! I have some nice close-up pics. that I would send you if you know how to post them. (Sorry to be a nuisance. I have been looking for someone to impose upon, and for your kindness I have asked you. "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished".)
My email address is brian@fastcutcnc.com

Please think about posting the photos for me. I would greatly appreciate it. I would sure like to share them. It is a very interesting little odd-ball project for fellow gun nuts. Brian
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There are two ways to get picture in your posts, create a account on a public photosharing site like photobucket or pay for membership on CGN which give you the ability to store pictures on this site.

Here is a link that explain the process in better detail:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/197433-Tutorial-How-to-Post-Pictures


Click one of the buttons here: (will list benefits of the various types of memberships and its benefits)

https://www.cgnapparel.com/collections/team-membership-program

If you want to post pictures, eventually you have to choose one of the two...
 
hoytcanon said:
Yeeeeeaaah, well... don't bet the farm on being faster... bad knees, yes sure... but long legs and big lungs... and with the right motivation (griz)... step aside Speedy Gonzales.
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If you are hunting Grizzly alone, always carry a big rock. If you see a grizzly too close, start running. If the grizzly get closer, drop the rock and you will be able to run much faster.
 
With respect to heart shots on Buffalo, Ganyana wrote a fantastic article on gunshot wounds - Bullet Wounds On Game: How Survivable Are They?


A quote:

What about shots through the heart? Anybody who has long hunted buffalo know that even a direct hit on the heart sometimes fails to produce the required result within an acceptable period of time. Relatively small diameter solids from rifles like a 9.3 or .375 are the usual culprits but occasionally there are stories about bigger bullets 'almost' failing. The heart is a fascinating muscle and trauma surgeons in some of the less salubrious City hospitals are fairly adept at treating heart wounds and expecting the patient to survive. The bottom two thirds of the heart (the ventricles) are composed of thick muscle with a small opening inside for blood. As the heart pumps it contracts and tends to seal the wound. In humans, knife wounds are remarkably survivable, but so are hits with full metal jacket round nosed bullets such as hunters often choose for buffalo hunting...A round nosed solid from a 9,3 makes a hole less than 3mm in size when it passes through the ventricles on a buffalo's heart (unless they are full, when hydrostatic shock causes an explosive wound). When the heart begins to pump, the contraction of the muscles will seal such a small wound, so blood loss will only occur when the muscles are relaxed and the heart is filling. Small wonder then, that occasionally you get a buffalo that keeps going far longer with a 'fatal' hit than most people believe possible. It was experience of this and just how small a wound the 9.3 makes that converted me onto soft points for buff, with flat nosed solids for back up.
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http://www.shakariconnection.com/bullet-wounds.html
 
Read that with interest in the past, it unfortunately reflects upon the worst aspects of an outdated bullet choice in medium bores; solids below elephant. A heavily constructed expanding bullet, those like A-Frames, TSXs, Trophy bonded Bear Claws and arguably the Partition (I'd certainly include it as stellar, some would call it not "stiff" enough for buffalo but that would be wrong) will make a solid look really bad on buffalo for effect.

Many are still packing solids for buffalo, for reasons I don't much understand. I could see the last one or two in a mag being solids, but given a TSX or A-Frame will penetrate from stern to stem on a buff and expand to larger than a .577 doing it, I find it an easy choice. .577 cast kills buffalo, and believe me so does a 300gr TSX at 2650.
 
1899, Good info. Thanks. I have heard that about .375 and smaller solid bullets. I think that I have read your excellent article but forgot about it. ( getting old!) I am going to read it again. Thanks. The .375 fans might find it interesting.
I think that a pal is posting some of my photos here for us. There may be a photo of the heart, hit by the 700 grain, .577 cast solid included.
Thanks for your info. I will read it. Brian
 
Why are you arguing over bullet design and caliber.

I'd roll up with my semi automatic Serbu BFG .50 cal loaded with 750 grain Hornady A-max and rest that beast with a shot anywhere in it's body, from any which body orientation. If the first round never dropped him, 5 more would be down range in 2 seconds and with the recoil of a 20 guage with birdshot. Then I'd cut off the head like you boys skin your grizzly bears and walk away like a boss. That's how I roll.

Why play games? 2800 feet per second and 12,000 foot pounds energy. Case closed.
 
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