Norinco Greatness

HI; Bought a Norc 1911 two tone adjustable sights, nice shiny slide, well fitted, new 400 bucks. Got a Smith and Wesson looks the same, 1200 bucks. Both shoot the same. 45acp. Some days I wonder witch is the primary and witch is the back up.
 
I have an np29 that shot well stock and with a custom fitted EGW bsrrel bushing it shoots even better , especially in the hands of a better shot than me. :)

What size did you order and where from?
Thanks.

Norincos are very good value for what they are.
Have owned their np29, 12.5" and 8.5" Grizzlies, 10.5" AR, and outlaw.

The outlaw is the only one I sold, too heavy for a pack gun, to low capacity for bear, too short for game.
Was good fun letting both barrels rip simultaneously but did have to mod the forestock to stop it dropping off every time I shot even a single trap load.

They're rough, heavy and ignorant but reliable, and give you a feel for the more expensive guns out there before you heavily invest in them.
 
What size did you order and where from?
Thanks.

Norincos are very good value for what they are.
Have owned their np29, 12.5" and 8.5" Grizzlies, 10.5" AR, and outlaw.

The outlaw is the only one I sold, too heavy for a pack gun, to low capacity for bear, too short for game.
Was good fun letting both barrels rip simultaneously but did have to mod the forestock to stop it dropping off every time I shot even a single trap load.

They're rough, heavy and ignorant but reliable, and give you a feel for the more expensive guns out there before you heavily invest in them.

Below is a link to the EGW bushings that are ideal for the NP29. Measure your particular barrel then select a bushing .001"-.002" larger then your barrel. Be precise when measuring because EGW is precise in there boring of the bushing. I then did a special order through Freedom Ventures, expect to wait 6-8 weeks.

http://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/small-bore-bushing-carry-bevel-govt-.699-od-unbored-ss/

http://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/small-bore-bushing-carry-bevel-govt-.699-od-unbored-blue/
 
My first pistol was a Norinco 1911. It was ok for the money. As with most budget guns you are much better off spending more and getting a quality pistol. Also don't know why people support countries like China and turkey when they have a choice.
 
Or you could tap the rear sight to the left a mite!

I have a 1911A1 .45ACP and a NP29; both are stock and shoot great with crisp trigger pulls. Bought extra MEC-GAR mags for both and they function great. Only thing is the NP29 barrel bushing is a bit short and the wiggle play cants the barrel a bit to the right and the nice tight groups just land about 1 1/2 " to the right of bulleyes. On the bright side i get to reuse the same target by just rotating it 180 degrees. Going to replace the bushing with a longer one like the Fusion small ID bushing if i can get my hands on one; very hard to get.
 
I do not support the Government.
I support the Chinese Gunsmiths and other workers building the Norinco guns.
Do they not deserve to get paid for their labour?

My first pistol was a Norinco 1911. It was ok for the money. As with most budget guns you are much better off spending more and getting a quality pistol. Also don't know why people support countries like China and turkey when they have a choice.
 
I recently took my norinco unissued sks to a local mil shoot and it was surprisingly accurate. It is my one good sks and I took good care of it all these years.
 
But why should anyone spend double or even triple the money for something of similar quality only because it is made in your country?
My first pistol was a Norinco 1911. It was ok for the money. As with most budget guns you are much better off spending more and getting a quality pistol. Also don't know why people support countries like China and turkey when they have a choice.
 
I think Norinco has been around long enough, and criticism is plentiful out there that most of the people buying their product would know what they are buying, I would think. And, as others have said, it's a cheaper way to get into the sport, and mostlikely people don't bother with politics. That's my take on it. But, if you're gona call out countries, call out Israel too ... Just sayin'
 
Below is a link to the EGW bushings that are ideal for the NP29. Measure your particular barrel then select a bushing .001"-.002" larger then your barrel. Be precise when measuring because EGW is precise in there boring of the bushing. I then did a special order through Freedom Ventures, expect to wait 6-8 weeks.

http://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/small-bore-bushing-carry-bevel-govt-.699-od-unbored-ss/

http://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/small-bore-bushing-carry-bevel-govt-.699-od-unbored-blue/


hey MET; are there any additional costs when shipping an EGW bushing to Canada ?
 
  1. It feeds well: I got out shooting my NZ85B and put over 250 rounds through it. Steel cased Winchester, 100 rounds; 3 failure to eject. 200 rounds of Blazer Brass, 80 rounds of mixed brass with cast lead home-loads, zero issues. That Winchester forged stuff is dry and gritty.
  2. Of all the center fire hand guns I have owned and there has been more than a few, this pistol shoots well with minimal effort; it makes shooting well very easy.

Before I finished my first session with it, I loaded up 2 x 10 shot mags and fired rapid fire at a large format (numbered 1-10 rings) ISSF target (16 x 16 I think) Every shot is on the paper and only one is outside the 1 ring. I could never do that with my Zastava, various revolvers including S & Ws, Colts and a Ruger Black Hawk, and a couple of other old FN semis, and a new Zastava M57.

If I was made of money, I would have a CZ; but I'm not, and presently, I am glad that I'm not, or I would not have the pleasure.

Cheap enough that I don't have to worry about shooting the hell out of it either.

I would buy another. No question.
 
Its true... I see little reason to buy a Norinco firearm at this point... 3-4 years ago sure. The Turkish shotguns are far better and sometimes cost less... the Smith&wesson AR 15 is far superior to the Norinco ones and costs the same (at least right now)

Do tell us how the S&W AR 15 is "far superior to a Norinco CQA AR 15? The price is definitely right on the S&W AR these days though.

hey MET; are there any additional costs when shipping an EGW bushing to Canada ?

I didn't keep my receipt from Freedom Ventures but I think it ended up being around $65.00 with tax and shipping to me.

Do keep in mind that the properly fitted bushing may or may not improve accuracy on your specific gun. My original bushing was undersized .010" bushing to slide and oversized .007" bushing to barrel, total movement of .017". The new bushing brought everything down to .003" overall clearance but my NP29 only shoots 8" groups at 25 yards shooting off a rest.

IMO the accuracy issues of the 9mm NP29 are due to barrel bore being oversized, mine measures around .357".358", a good 9mm barrel will measure at .354"-.355". 9mm projectiles are usually .354"-.355" so running them down a barrel that measures .357"-.358" isn't to ideal for accuracy IMO.
 
But why should anyone spend double or even triple the money for something of similar quality only because it is made in your country?

Ignoring the fact you're sending money to a future(or current) enemy when you buy from Turkey or China, quality alone is worth it.

There's no such thing as a similar quality American made firearm at twice the price. Upgrading the finish alone would almost put it on par with an American made 1911.

I don't really understand the idea of a cheap 1911 anyways. I wouldn't buy a 1911 unless I was in Dan Wesson or Les Baer territory. If you are going to go cheap a polymer striker fired pistol is 5x the gun for the same price.
 
Besides, China and America aren't the only ones in the game. RIA and taurus are options as well.
 
I think Norinco has been around long enough, and criticism is plentiful out there that most of the people buying their product would know what they are buying, I would think. And, as others have said, it's a cheaper way to get into the sport, and mostlikely people don't bother with politics. That's my take on it. But, if you're gona call out countries, call out Israel too ... Just sayin'

People suffer from Walmart syndrome
"I don't care if it's low quality, unsafe, supports child labour, human rights abuses, supports enemy states, destroys domestic business, as long as it's cheap i will buy it."

If the cost of a quality firearm is the issue then you don't understand the shooting discipline. Feeding the gun and training are where the expense lies. The gun is a fixed one time cost. If you cant afford a quality gun the you can't afford to shoot at all.

Only norc owners feel compelled to start norc "validation" threads. That should tell you something.
 
I've owned three Norinco products over the years: AK-47, SKS and a 1911 Sport. In the early 1980's I purchased the AK-47 and SKS and the 1911 Sport in early or mid 2000. Each and every one of them functioned reliably and were accurate!! The internals of these firearms were a little rough with sharp edges especially in the 1911 Sport but this did not take anything away from them in terms of reliability or accuracy. With this said I admit that I have never held onto any of the Norincos I've owned for more than a few years before selling them and I currently do not own any Norcs. FWIW, I've never considered any of my Norcs as "keepers" or collectables but 'users'.
 
People suffer from Walmart syndrome
"I don't care if it's low quality, unsafe, supports child labour, human rights abuses, supports enemy states, destroys domestic business, as long as it's cheap i will buy it."

If the cost of a quality firearm is the issue then you don't understand the shooting discipline. Feeding the gun and training are where the expense lies. The gun is a fixed one time cost. If you cant afford a quality gun the you can't afford to shoot at all.

Only norc owners feel compelled to start norc "validation" threads. That should tell you something.
Wow, gotta shake my head at this. I own a small business, cash is always tight, when I decided to enter the AR world the Norc/DA was a fantastic entry price into the game for someone on a limited budget. Since then, the price of " American made" AR's have come down substantially. If they had been $699 a year and a half ago, I'm sure that is what I would own.
In the last 18 months I have had the chance to shoot a few different AR's, some worth thousands of dollars, not one has made me regret the Norc I bought. It has run as good, and in reality, much better than some $2000 jam-o-matics I have seen.
Norc owners don't " justify" owning Norcs any more than Glock guys or any other brand justify owning their firearms.
If you feel that by not buying a Norc you are somehow superior to the " Walmart syndrome" people you refer to,,,, more power to you, but your statement about if you can't afford a quality gun ,then you can't afford to shoot is straight up asinine.
Must be nice to have more money than cents
 
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