Norinco M77B Range Report

Would you be interested in a MysticPlayer P90 Stock for this pistol?

  • Hell ya!

    Votes: 34 75.6%

  • Nope, looks too evil.

    Votes: 11 24.4%
  • Total voters
    45
Push safety all the way down...hard. Then pull the slide back, lift it up and ease it forward.

When I made the practice grips, I thinned them up top so the grip is less bulky. When I get some nice wood, I will refine the process and finish.

Once the pistol is racked on empty and striker poised, it is easier to rack again with the cocker.

My next adaptation involves a bolt on shoulder stock.
 
I'm guessing that with the NP-20 you CAN use a trigger guard grip ;)

Is it safe to say yet that the NP-20/M77b can be added to the "OK to buy" list for Norinco products?
 
Ok, I see it now....thanks. Somewhat hard to get at if you wanted to make sure it wasn't gummed up. Would just a wire brush down the barrel suffice to clean out that port?
 
To clean out the port you can either use a dental pick or bend up a paper clip. The gas pressure should suffice to keep the port clean, unless you run lead loads through the gun and blow the system up.

Claven2: I now have just over 2k through the M77B and never had any problems. Not one. I can safely tell you that you can add the M77B to the buy list for Norinco products.
 
I'll add my 2 cents here:
This evening I had a chance to shoot a used m77b I bought on this board. I have to agree with DAR701, it seems to be a decent pistol for the money. I didn't have a single failure and I didn't find the recoil to be notably stronger than the other 9mm's I've shot. I was also surprised by the accuracy, a bit less than 1.5 inches at 25 yards (rested...5 shots...winchester white box).
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Pros:
- its cheap
- accurate
- reliable
- different (gas system and finger cocking)
- adjustable sights
- decent quality mags

Cons:
- the grip is a little awkward and the serrations on the back of the grip are sharp, after only 50 rounds were making the skin between my thumb and trigger finger sore. (a dremel or even a bit of hockey tape would help)
- the trigger is loooooooong. Combined with the awkward grip it feels like you are going to touch your palm before it goes off. Will take some getting used to.
 
I now have just over 2k through the M77B and never had any problems. Not one. I can safely tell you that you can add the M77B to the buy list for Norinco products.
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do you mean nothing's broken or you had 0 malfanctions?
 
0 malfunctions and nothing has broken. My only gripe with it is the cheesy plastic grips but I might do up a set of wood grips this winter for it to correct that.
 
After my 'event' with cast bullets in my M77B, I can say I am very impressed with this Norc.

Now shooting plated 124gr RN over Titegroup, Win cases, and Win primers. Surprisingly very accurate. Same long pull trigger but it is smooth and you get used to it after a bit. Not sure what can be done to modify this? Anyone played with the triggers?

Fired at least 300rds through without cleaning and it is running with 0 issues. I am going to keep shooting it to see when the gas system cloggs up. Last time out, was hitting 12ga shells at 20yds.

Given that most battle pistols have a pretty spongy trigger anyways, I can't fault that too much, albeit longer then most. This is not a tuned 1911.

The plastic grips can easily be modified but mine are quite comfy so again no real complaint here. This is a wide body frame but only a single stack used. I wonder if there is a double stack somewhere in the Chinese inventory.

Mine was shooting very high but getting closer to POI with the dirty barrel. Maybe I am just getting used to it too. Sights seem to be holding zero and adjustments are easily done. I like the low profile adjustable rear sight. Nice blocky sight picture that is clear and easy to use.

Recoil is mild with little flip. No real difference to any other pistol in 9mm. Ejection is very positive. Not sure what springs to replace as this one wears. Anyone try and fit a Wolff from some other pistol? Weight?

Safety is 'backwards' and small, but the rest of the controls are standard and work as designed. Mag does drop free. Mag opening could be easily flared for quicker mag insertions. Mags feed well but loading is hard on thumb.

Overall, I rate this pistol a great value and a good buy for someone looking for a full size/weight 9mm. I would definitely recommend this over the 9mm Tok. Maybe even over the alum frame Euro clones. The M77 is built like a brick S- house.

Mag is limited to 9rds so have to be considered if looking for a production comp pistol. Not sure if it can be modified to 10rds. Maybe a spring swap like done on 1911 mags?

Jerry
 
I`m sold...thanks for your review. I been thinking about picking up one of these and a new norinco tokarev. For the price of those M77b they can`t be beat. I think I will get one of these in a few months. Perfect way to ease back into shooting at the range without breaking the bank;) post a few pics of yours if you get a chance, thanks
 
I have not played with the trigger at all but have found that it really smoothes up with use. I now have two of these pistols and the main one I use (should have just passed the 3k mark last week) has a noticeably lighter trigger than my other one (130 rounds down the tube). If you want spare mags buy them at lever arms as they are 18 bucks a mag versus marstar's 35 dollar a mag. Interesting to note that lever arms mags are unmarked and marstar's all have either a 1 or a 2 on the bottom along with a serial number... perhaps that is why they are 17 bucks a mag more. ;)
 
One thing about the trigger, I just removed the magazine disconect and the trigger feels a little bit lighter. Was an easy mod, just take off the right hand grip, push the mag disconnect lever up, use a slim screwdriver to pry up the bottom part of the spring that holds the mag disconnect down and pull out the pin. Take out the mag disconnect lever and reinstall pin and spring. Viola! Instant gratification of a stupid safety gone and a slightly lighter and slightly smoother trigger to boot.
 
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