Not allowed to sell any IVI components anymore on the EE? Why?

fenceline said:
What section of the code makes it illegal to possess regulation cadpat?
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Unlike other elements of Canadian military uniforms, ownership and wearing of CADPAT is subject to section 419 of the Criminal Code of Canada as well as military regulations. Simply put, unless personally authorized in writing, only military members may lawfully be in possession of CADPAT. Currently, only the NB DNR is autorized to wear CADPAT on the job and then only in poacher "observation" missions. CP Gear, Dropzone Tactical and Warrior Gear are authorized to make regulation rank badges and non-military cut clothing and equipment in CADPAT. Also regulation CADPAT is cut up before disposal, if you see CADPAT on someone who is not military or is ex military, it is stolen. Some member is without his kit or has sold his kit illegally.
 
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fraserdw said:
Makes sense, one of the most annoying things for use in military is the sale of CADPAT uniforms to the public. It is a criminal code offense to possess regulation CADPAT and not be a member of the Canadian Forces. I hope you will enforce that as well as it is an extension of this rule.
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That's already enforced. No sale of current issue CF gear, or clothing.
 
tiriaq said:
I'll add a bit more to Jay's explanation.
Salvaged IVI brass is sold in large quantities. Anyone buying it by the ton is planning on reselling it for profit. That is business.
Such salvaged brass sold as scrap by the gov't obviously has a legal pedigree.
CGN will not allow the sale of current issue gov't property unless its lineage is clear.
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So yah.....sponsor complained....
 
fraserdw said:
Unlike other elements of Canadian military uniforms, ownership and wearing of CADPAT is subject to section 419 of the Criminal Code of Canada as well as military regulations. Simply put, unless personally authorized in writing, only military members may lawfully be in possession of CADPAT. Currently, only the NB DNR is autorized to wear CADPAT on the job and then only in poacher "observation" missions. CP Gear, Dropzone Tactical and Warrior Gear are authorized to make regulation rank badges and non-military cut clothing and equipment in CADPAT. Also regulation CADPAT is cut up before disposal, if you see CADPAT on someone who is not military or is ex military, it is stolen. Some member is without his kit or has sold his kit illegally.
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419(a) says "wears a uniform".

Not a piece of a uniform. Given that, I'd find it highly unlikely someone would get convicted for wearing a boonie cap as one piece alone does not constitute a uniform. The act is written to keep people from trying to pass themselves off as an official.

Now if the act stated something like "wears any uniform item", then ya, it would be different. Lacking insignia, etc, and it isn't so much a uniform anymore.

The section also does not say it is illegal to possess such items, only illegal to wear a uniform of the CF when not entitled to by the CF.

Plus summary conviction. Not arrestable unless found in the act of actually wearing said uniform.


"419. Every one who without lawful authority, the proof of which lies on him,

(a) wears a uniform of the Canadian Forces or any other naval, army or air force or a uniform that is so similar to the uniform of any of those forces that it is likely to be mistaken therefor,

Is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction."

Anyways, off topic. Can carry this on elsewhere....
 
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tiriaq said:
I'll add a bit more to Jay's explanation.
Salvaged IVI brass is sold in large quantities. Anyone buying it by the ton is planning on reselling it for profit. That is business.
Such salvaged brass sold as scrap by the gov't obviously has a legal pedigree.
CGN will not allow the sale of current issue gov't property unless its lineage is clear.
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So in saying that would it not be possible using the headstamp to determine the lineage. IE. some handstamps could be sold over EE if a list of the few more popular ones that are known to be of clear legal lineage is laid out?

Just trying to make most people stop complaining about I bought X ammo from Y dealer a certain amount of time ago...

Sleeper said:
Are there liability issues that can be linked to CGN or are we just being policed because you can?
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I think this is "policing" is more to keep CGN from becoming known to the liberals as a "shady arms trading site".
I think rules like this help keep CGN a lot more PC, and keeps them from RCMP complaints... I find these new rules annoying but I can defiantly see the point behind them.
 
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Maybe the new management for CANADIAN WHOLESALE AMMO complained.

Seriously though, Nobody ever scrutinizes EE Ads for: " ### Cal BRASS FOR SALE $X.XX /50- MIXED HEADSTAMP. PM if interested"
 
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