Notice to S&W M&P 15-22 Rifle Owners
- Thread starter Questar
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blaxsun
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That was my point: There is no M&P15-22P pistol magazine. There is, on the other hand, an M&P15-22 rifle magazine.
- Location
- Ottawa origanally Muskoka
This ruling has NOTHING to do with the fact that the rimfire rifle can take 1-1000000 round magazines, it can. 10/22 or 15-22 doesn't matter.
Same as the above, what you propose has nothing to do with anything.
The issue is, The 15-22 Pistol magazines have the SAME part number as the 15-22 RIFLE magazines, therefore "they are pistol magazines" and need to be pinned to 10 rounds or less.
The fact that the rifle came first before there even was a pistol, and the magazines really were designed for a rifle means IMHO (disclaimer, not a lawyer, but I stayed at a holiday inn express last night) the RCMP is s**t outta luck defending their interpretation of the law if someone chooses to challenge it.
Going to be fun when someone brings in a .458 SOCOM AR15 pistol, and boatloads of pistol mags designed for it. Pretty much the equivalent of the AIA 20 rounders.
OK fine then an aftermarket company supplies the 10round mags with all new pistols, existing pistol mags are pinned or what have you and they simply have a part number change. And we all live happily ever after?!
I was figuring on Canadian law makers having more than half a brain to realize that a "designation" doesn't mean #### as to weather a part will fit.
That's like being able to buy an integral-silenced gun with a manufacturer designation of a velosity limiter or some stupid name.
This wouldn't fly I'm sure so I didn't figure a number/designation change would either.
This is what will solve the problem and I wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly what happens. Either this or Smith and Wesson themselves have a "Canadian friendly" mag for each the pistol and rifle in the near future.
Is it even worth requesting that Smith & Wesson produce a special batch of "Canadian legal" M&P 15-22 rifle mags with some stamping that states they are designed to be used in the M&P 15-22 rifle? Would the RCMP accept that? Who would be interested?
I think Armand at Badger stated that perhaps 2000 of us have purchased such a rifle.
I think Armand at Badger stated that perhaps 2000 of us have purchased such a rifle.
notsorichguy
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- The city that rhymes with fun
Hey I know!
Lets start a class action law-suit against S&W claiming 'un-due stress' and 'making me deal with BS firearms laws'......
I know of one local Lawyer that would think this is a great idea.....
Lets start a class action law-suit against S&W claiming 'un-due stress' and 'making me deal with BS firearms laws'......
I know of one local Lawyer that would think this is a great idea.....
Scott Max Danger
CGN Regular
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- Saskatchewan
S&w would go out of buisness if they had to abide by all of Canada's stupid gun laws. Their company would only be able to build pink lego guns with 10 shot mags so girls and the rcmp dont get scared when they see them.
Silver_Back
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Mind if i ask where you purchased those from?
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Interesting Update for all 'Pistol' Rimfires
This is a bit of a twist... apparently the S&W M&P15-22 magazines are considered "dual purpose", ie: they work in both the M&P15-22 rifle and M&P15-22P pistol. It is apparently that fact (and not the wording or part number, per say) that will make them prohibited unless pinned or otherwise limited to 10 rounds.
That being said, what about any of the aftermarket magazines (drum, etc.) for the M&P15-22 rifle? Even if they're made as/advertised for the rifle only. Also prohibited. All of them.
And then the next obvious question then becomes: so what happens to the magazines for any other rimfire rifle that is released and imported in a pistol (aka: handgun) version? Guess...
This is a bit of a twist... apparently the S&W M&P15-22 magazines are considered "dual purpose", ie: they work in both the M&P15-22 rifle and M&P15-22P pistol. It is apparently that fact (and not the wording or part number, per say) that will make them prohibited unless pinned or otherwise limited to 10 rounds.
That being said, what about any of the aftermarket magazines (drum, etc.) for the M&P15-22 rifle? Even if they're made as/advertised for the rifle only. Also prohibited. All of them.
And then the next obvious question then becomes: so what happens to the magazines for any other rimfire rifle that is released and imported in a pistol (aka: handgun) version? Guess...
- Location
- Fraser Valley BC
Could you expand on this in a less cryptic manner please?
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Any rimfire magazines with a capacity in excess of 10 rounds which can also be used in a pistol (handgun) version are going to be prohibited. This includes aftermarket as well as OEM magazines, regardless of designation.
god damn, no more 25 rounders in the 10/22?
are we actually going to get a letter in the mail saying any of this?
are magazine sales even tracked/registered? say I have 3 15-22 mags, only 1 came with the rifle, do they know about my other 2???
are we actually going to get a letter in the mail saying any of this?
are magazine sales even tracked/registered? say I have 3 15-22 mags, only 1 came with the rifle, do they know about my other 2???
- Location
- Fraser Valley BC
I suppose you don't want to reveal a source...but can you confirm you have a reliable one?
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Only if there's a Pistol version available that's classified as a handgun (S&W, Colt, HK, etc.) which can utilize the 10+ capacity magazine.
And I was really looking forward to this one in .22LR, too...
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blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Unfortunately, yes.
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- Fraser Valley BC
CK!
Only if there's a Pistol version available that's classified as a handgun (S&W, Colt, HK, etc.) which can utilize the 10+ capacity magazine.
And I was really looking forward to this one in .22LR, too...
hmmmm but doesnt the ruger charger pistol have the same action as the 10/22??
