NR pistol calibre carbines

I have a chiapa M1-9
Fires every time, feeds, extracts and is as accurate as any semi carbine I’ve handled.
The wood clad is of good quality.
My only complaint is the plastic trigger guard

What makes you say POS ?
 
sigh.... I guess you could add the Chiapa M1 "copy"

ITs a POS but hey its another option

you could go with a actual M1 carbine in 30 carbine... Auto ordinance makes a nice one


I have a chiapa M1-9
Fires every time, feeds, extracts and is as accurate as any semi carbine I’ve handled.
The wood clad is of good quality.
My only complaint is the plastic trigger guard

What makes you say POS ?
 
The trigger is mush but the upgrade package from Sierra Papa is 130 I believe. Anyway from what I understand its a pain in the ass to install and there are no videos online of someone doing it. I have yet to purchase the upgrade but I would like to at some point.

Sierra papa kit is not a pain to install if you need help holla at me
 
Can happen, lots of people find these threads in the search function of the forum or google. Checking dates at that point is a step too far lol, I know I've resurrected threads too many times to count.
 
I have a few 9mm / 10mm NR carbine, they are fun but i have found the ultimate in NR pistol caliber carbine.

A Taylor and Co Revolving carbine in 357mag/38 Spl.
Smooth SA trigger, sights are right on, weight around 4 pounds, around 32 inch long.
At 30 yards it shoot groups like the ones you are shooting at 5 yards with a regular pistol SA.

They also make them in 45 LC.

I would buy another one in 44 mag /44 Spl or 22lr /22WMR ( both cylinders ).

It is sooo cool to shoot.:dancingbanana:

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I have a few 9mm / 10mm NR carbine, they are fun but i have found the ultimate in NR pistol caliber carbine.

A Taylor and Co Revolving carbine in 357mag/38 Spl.
Smooth SA trigger, sights are right on, weight around 4 pounds, around 32 inch long.
At 30 yards it shoot groups like the ones you are shooting at 5 yards with a regular pistol SA.

They also make them in 45 LC.

I would buy another one in 44 mag /44 Spl or 22lr /22WMR ( both cylinders ).

It is sooo cool to shoot.:dancingbanana:

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This is what PCC class will look like if the Turd gets his way.......
 
The 9mm pistol carbine seems to be debated here every two months. If you tally up the votes, the CX4 always wins! Plenty of comparison reviews out there as well. CX4 usually comes out on top, but can come down to personal preference. Not everyone likes the stock.
As for the Saturday-versus-Monday necro posting, it's Sunday, so splitting the difference. ;-)

I've not shot a CX4 but it was in the top 3 when I was considering a PCC, just because there was so much positive feedback online about how reliably it functions. And I'd like to have a Beretta pistol some day (if the laws around that stay tolerable-ish), so there was the appeal of Beretta magazine compatibility. But then I started noticing how many reported long, mushy, EXTREMELY heavy trigger action. No thanks. I'm rather trigger-fussy by nature. Bought my $2,000 Pardini K12 air pistol largely because it has the best trigger in the field, hands down, significantly better than my previous K10 which was already pretty darn nice. So once I brought focus to the blow-back trigger problem among PCCs it seemed my best bet was the TNW Aero, where working on the trigger components didn't look very challenging. And sure enough once I bought one in 9mm I shaved a pound or so off the already not too hard factory pull, smoothed out the action of the main part of the pull, shortened the stroke a bit, and now have a very acceptable trigger. Some small files, sandpaper, 0000 steel wool, then buffing compound on a soft cotton wheel go a long way towards making such things work nicely.

The other factors for me revolved around easy portability (small backpack, not very heavy), and reliability of function (again, polishing/shaping went a long way with the Aero). With lightweight/compact size, trigger quality and reliability as the main criterion the field narrows fairly quickly. Add in precision on target and the Kel Tec and a couple of others drop off the list, and there's no reason to put the CX4 back on as it still has that crappy trigger. So in the end it wasn't much of a choice, came down to looks and price really. And with user frustration reports coupled with rates of appearance of very slightly used samples on ####### dot ca for the TNW and the JR coming in at about a tie, I went with the one which came apart and put together most easily/quickly, the JR Carbine seeming a bit of a pain to take down and assemble.

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I have a few 9mm / 10mm NR carbine, they are fun but i have found the ultimate in NR pistol caliber carbine.

A Taylor and Co Revolving carbine in 357mag/38 Spl.
Smooth SA trigger, sights are right on, weight around 4 pounds, around 32 inch long.
At 30 yards it shoot groups like the ones you are shooting at 5 yards with a regular pistol SA.

They also make them in 45 LC.

I would buy another one in 44 mag /44 Spl or 22lr /22WMR ( both cylinders ).

It is sooo cool to shoot.:dancingbanana:

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It would be cool to sbr one.
 
Clearly a lot of the comments in this thread are somewhat dated. The Ruger PCC would or should make anyone's short list. For struck gun/plinker/game gun the Sub2k has a lot going for it running Glock, Berreta or M&P mags. It even comes with an acceptable trigger. Nothing beats it for portability. Once you get used to the CX4 trigger it works ok. Tje trigger group was designed by an Italian Committee on wine. It just looks badass.

Take Care
Bob
 
Bull ####.

The CX4 has an acceptable trigger from factory. And most competition requires an aftermarket job to be good anyway.

The SP kit makes the CX4 as good as can be.


No matter what, out of all the PCC's I have handled, or shot, which are many.... the CX4 is still the king.

The looks turn a lot of people off, but dispite that it is still consistently the winner... what does that tell you?
 
What do you mean by 'is still the winner?' Seems a bit lacking in information. It doesn't take down into easily packable parts, so for anyone wanting that convenience the CX4 gets humped off the list. I mean it sort of comes apart... but it's more like the kind of dismantling someone does for cleaning, not a true takedown carbine. The Ruger is obviously superior, besides having a better trigger out of the box, and not looking like a cheap prop from a bad sci-fi TV series. Don't get me wrong, like I said the Beretta was well near the top of my list before decision time. I'd still like to shoot one sometime. Paul Harrell seems to like his and in most things I find his opinions valuable. It just didnt quite meet my particular criterion for selection, while the TNW did on all counts. Ruger was next on my final list, just didn't like the short connector between the parts, where the 4" between two points of contact for the Aero's barrel in the action seem to make for better repeatability as relates to action-mounted scopes. If using a red dot I'd probably have gone with the Ruger, putting a dot sight on the barrel mount and a 3x magnifier in the action. My eyes just don't get along with dot sights any more, so the better scoped option was the TNW. Same there applies for different reasons on the CX4, where the open sights might be fun... if my eyes worked with those.
 
Shoot one... then we can talk.

The CX4 even assembled fits into places that a traditional layout does not. My NR CX4 easily fits into a regular duffle bag assembled... and taken down with the single pin fits much smaller.

As for a prop.... yeah... it wasn't modeled as a prop... it was selected as one because of its look. Battlestar galactica comes to mind. But if you think that is a negative I guess the C96, tavor, Aug, beret 92, g36, fs2000, FG42, etc should also be counted as cheap sci-fi props.

But feel free to not listen to me, or the many others singing along...

Look at the many threads, forums, blogs, and so on... the CX4 continues to surface.
 
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