Obscured serial #'s in EE ads

The Ghost gun thing may be a bit Spy vs Spy but you have to admit it would be a pretty effective way to obscure the trail for at least a few hours. The real issue is, and the original question, why obscure your serial number, and therefore is it safe to show the serial number of your gun online. I think you have to admit when you consider the number of cases where organized crime has infiltrated government run organizations the answer is no.

As for fenceline's comment, your too busy trying to shoot it down by inferring things he didn't actually say. He's got a very good point. May I draw your attention to #54 above...no they didn't come for his guns, they came to shoot him. Point is some greedy or spineless sack of feces pointed the Hell's Angels in the right direction. The right direction could just as easily be to do a little shopping in one of our gun safes.

Which reminds me...better check my photo bucket account.

You should see the charade I go through every time I go shooting...if you watched my neighbour's house for a bit you'd understand.
 
GR0M said:
Like Jesus? And aliens?
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Aliens...perfect...if you don't believe they are out there you are one of many that has trouble with really big numbers...now visiting earth is another matter.

Really, if you think it's ok, go to it. I think it's not very wise. I suggest you ask Michel Auger what he thinks...lucky for him 8 bullets didn't kill him.

You asked and we told you...not likely your going to have a problem...much more likely than me though if you don't cover up.
 
redshooter said:
Aliens...perfect...if you don't believe they are out there you are one of many that has trouble with really big numbers...now visiting earth is another matter.

Really, if you think it's ok, go to it. I think it's not very wise. I suggest you ask Michel Auger what he thinks...lucky for him 8 bullets didn't kill him.

You asked and we told you...not likely your going to have a problem...much more likely than me though if you don't cover up.
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Does this apply to long guns? I thought not.
 
redshooter said:
The Ghost gun thing may be a bit Spy vs Spy but you have to admit it would be a pretty effective way to obscure the trail for at least a few hours. The real issue is, and the original question, why obscure your serial number, and therefore is it safe to show the serial number of your gun online. I think you have to admit when you consider the number of cases where organized crime has infiltrated government run organizations the answer is no.
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No I don't agree that it would be an effective way to obscure a guns trail. First, you'd have to remove the original serial number. That would obscure a trail effectively and you wouldn't have to take it any further.

If organized crime is going to infiltrate government, the RPAL registrations let's say, then they'd illegally obtain the info there not from internet ads for guns.

Lastly I've been meaning to watch the episode. Thanks for the link
 
Mining a data base would get you caught. Punching in a serial number on your coworkers workstation while they are taking a leak would tell you where that gun sits while the owner is at work...is this starting to make sense now? Bikers and other organized crime groups target people in these jobs...a quick google search will find plenty of examples.

If you think it's a stupid thing to do why ask in the first place? Seems like you already have your mind made up.
 
GR0M said:
I can understand simply not displaying it for the principle of not sharing private identifying info, I'm just curious what a real world negative outcome could be
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I can think of a few negative outcomes, the most obvious being some joker calling the cops with an anonymous tip that he just bought a gun with your serial number from some guy at Jane & Finch. Do you want to be investigated for gun trafficking, potentially get arrested and have your house searched, etc.?
 
capp325 said:
I can think of a few negative outcomes, the most obvious being some joker calling the cops with an anonymous tip that he just bought a gun with your serial number from some guy at Jane & Finch. Do you want to be investigated for gun trafficking, potentially get arrested and have your house searched, etc.?
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That's a good point, just like people that take part in Swattings on innocent people.
 
redshooter said:
Mining a data base would get you caught. Punching in a serial number on your coworkers workstation while they are taking a leak would tell you where that gun sits while the owner is at work...is this starting to make sense now? Bikers and other organized crime groups target people in these jobs...a quick google search will find plenty of examples.

If you think it's a stupid thing to do why ask in the first place? Seems like you already have your mind made up.
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Makes no sense.
I have never seen a stolen firearm with a legit guns serial implanted on it. Not saying that it couldn't be done, just that there is no sense in doing so.
Nobody is going to come banging on your door in the middle of the night (as a previous poster suggested) asking if you knew your RPAL or a serial number from one of your guns was used in an offence.
When I have a stolen gun on my desk, the people in our organization that search it work days. And the database is a daytime thing also. I have yet a search to come back within 3 days. If then it comes up to you, I'd call you during the daytime because I work, you guessed it, days.
Nearly all the guns used in offences are stolen. Nearly all that I have seen have the serials intact but some are ground off. It makes no difference to the criminal using the gun whether it has a serial number or not. And they sure aren't going to go through the trouble of browsing the internet and finding the same gun and try to put this serial on the stolen gun which they can't possess anyway.
Again, if someone knows of any case that had a firearm used in an offence that had the serial removed and a different serial put on by the criminal using it, please post the story. I'd be very interested in reading and sharing this information.
 
ricohman said:
Makes no sense.
I have never seen a stolen firearm with a legit guns serial implanted on it. Not saying that it couldn't be done, just that there is no sense in doing so.
Nobody is going to come banging on your door in the middle of the night (as a previous poster suggested) asking if you knew your RPAL or a serial number from one of your guns was used in an offence.
When I have a stolen gun on my desk, the people in our organization that search it work days. And the database is a daytime thing also. I have yet a search to come back within 3 days. If then it comes up to you, I'd call you during the daytime because I work, you guessed it, days.
Nearly all the guns used in offences are stolen. Nearly all that I have seen have the serials intact but some are ground off. It makes no difference to the criminal using the gun whether it has a serial number or not. And they sure aren't going to go through the trouble of browsing the internet and finding the same gun and try to put this serial on the stolen gun which they can't possess anyway.
Again, if someone knows of any case that had a firearm used in an offence that had the serial removed and a different serial put on by the criminal using it, please post the story. I'd be very interested in reading and sharing this information.
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Your saying that if a crime was committed, a gun was found at the scene (registered to me) that you would be considerate enough to let me get a full nights rest and come in the morning?
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
Your saying that if a crime was committed, a gun was found at the scene (registered to me) that you would be considerate enough to let me get a full nights rest and come in the morning?
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If its listed on CPIC as stolen, why would anyone be waking you up in the middle on the night to tell you your gun was used in a crime?
If its not on CPIC, then it has to be searched. Go back to sleep.
 
ricohman said:
If its listed on CPIC as stolen, why would anyone be waking you up in the middle on the night to tell you your gun was used in a crime?
If its not on CPIC, then it has to be searched. Go back to sleep.
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I'm not saying my gun was stolen, but that one of these so called "Ghost Guns" appear with my pistols serial # on it. From my understanding these are good copies of the originals and never had a serial # accept for the one printed on it. I know it is a stretch, but it could be possible and criminals can be very creative on how they come up with information.
 
**Mods, I'm doing my best not to cast about insults.**

I think the whole Ghost Gun thing has been dismissed as a thing to worry about. Even though it is an interesting intellectual exercise.

I have a refreshing approach to formulating my replies in internet forums. I go back and read the posts that have prompted me to reply. "Go back to sleep", how about read carefully.
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
I'm not saying my gun was stolen, but that one of these so called "Ghost Guns" appear with my pistols serial # on it. From my understanding these are good copies of the originals and never had a serial # accept for the one printed on it. I know it is a stretch, but it could be possible and criminals can be very creative on how they come up with information.
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Why? They can't legally posses your gun. They aren't you, and if someone is going to use a gun they can't legally have, in a crime, having your serial on it is of no advantage to them.
How can the criminal gain advantage this way?
 
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