Options other than a custom rifle

tikka t3x varmint with XRS stock.

I have this combo for my own practice every weekend, I don’t mind the muzzle break because it doesn’t not increase accuracy and we sit pretty close in our range so non-threaded barrel on T3X varmint is not bothering me. Might get it threaded later before I join any PRS match

Sub moa at 300yards and I believe this gun will outshoot me
 
Tikka, end of story. I have a few tikkas. My 6.5 creedmoor will under under 1/2 moa out to 800 yards (its as far as I can really get out to without driving for hours), within 300 I can usually hold 0.3 moa. This is a t3x ctr with 24" barrel. Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x50.
 

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I agree with the suggestions for getting a Tikka, whether an Ace or Varmint (and throwing it in a chassis). The nice thing is that you can get pre-fit barrels from JC out in New Brunswick that work a charm, so when you get through the barrel or want to try a new caliber, it's fairly easy to switch (assuming you can get the darn Tikka barrel off the action, which takes a bit of elbow grease and a lot of "perkele's"!) I recently bought a couple of stainless Tikka T3xs on sale and swapped out the barrels for heavy Palma profiles in 6 GT and a 25 CM from JC (and Forster has really good selections of head space gauges). So I guess factory with an option to go a bit custom down the road!
 
You can’t do none of that without some good reloads you need to keep your es and sd down in the single digits if possible I would shoot 136 lapua or 139 lapua with h4350 seems to be available more so than the Berger
 
powdergun said:
I guess I needed to be a bit more specific. Looking for .5 MOA capable and the reason for 6.5 CM is i am already set up with dies, brass etc...
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Originally it was about a sub moa rifle, which would have been 5" groups at 500 yards, most rifles with decent ammo and a good shooter will do this.
This was then corrected later on, but just to confirm you're talking about a rifle shooting 0.5 MOA, at ranges of 500 yards (2.5" groups) and not implying 0.5" groups at 500 yards?

Most quality rifles will do the first, there's only a handful of rifles that could do the latter. Massive difference in the price amongst the two.
 
"This was then corrected later on, but just to confirm you're talking about a rifle shooting 0.5 MOA, at ranges of 500 yards (2.5" groups) and not implying 0.5" groups at 500 yards?"

.5 inch group never in my wildest dreams lol.... Yes 2.5 inch groups at 500. My 300 WM comes pretty close but the only reason it won't is all me not the gun. Just wanting something a little more pleasant to shoot and I really enjoy new projects.
 
boxhitch said:
have yet to see a single target for any make or model showing how easy it is
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htt ps://backfire.tv/most-accurate-hunting-rifles/
Quite literally the first google search will show you even generic off the shelf rifles will shoot 0.5 moa under the hands of a good shooter with a properly dialed rifle. Just look up accuracy testing videos on YouTube, plenty of people putting 5-6 rounds through 3 holes using a 308 rem 700 in a chassis.

Being able to group 0.5 moa at 500 yards is the same size grouping as being able to consecutively hit golf balls at 300. This is exactly why I said most quality rifles will do it, assuming you are capable shooter. Majority of the people shooting guns today, no matter how good, cannot "outshoot" the accuracy of their firearms, regardless of the price. Its just human imperfection and errors that factor into it. They only way you find that out is by moving to a better platform. I've seen a guy with a Cadex shoot 3 moa. I've seen someone else put 4 rounds through the same hole using that same rifle and ammo.

As for your "have yet to see a single target for any make or model showing how easy it is"

Here's a Ruger American predator in a MDT chassis, Hornady match 308 168gr, with a diamondback tac 6-24.
5 shot group at 325 yards, all rounds through two touching holes. Surprised myself that day if I'm being honest, also allowed a minute or two for barrel cooling between shots.
Don't mid the ####ty tape job, it was my last target for the day and was trying to get the most out of it.
Tried to make the center dot roughly an inch.

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Buddy of mine runs a ARC Coup De Grace also in a MDT chassis, custom IBI barrel, handloads, fancy optics and all the other works.
Every single handload runs the same velocity. safe to assume he is very nitpicky but then again he gets similar groups at 800y, also is a far better shot than me and his rifle build cost four times the price of my ruger.
 
The Tikka Varmint with a chassis idea sounds doable. I was looking at the MDT site and the Oryx chassis seems well priced. Any opinions on that particular model ?
 
U shud be able to achieve moa at 500 with a Ruger American Gen ii in tue chassis of your choice.

But since I own one and love it. I recommend a Springfield waypoint 2020.
Easily moa at any distance and exceptional in build quality.

Mine in 308 is an absolute hammer and 1/2 moa capable.

Not every day but no rifle is unless its shot by a robot.
 
Heck for inside 500 plinking it's pretty tough to beat a .223!
You can buy a very acvurate one tgat will shoot ammo that won't break the bank for factory ammo or quality hand loads .
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Heck, i have gotten moa at 500 out of my ruger ranch 5.56 in an MDT Lss.
 
Hi there new here so feel free to take my suggestion or not.
1) Most rifles can do that however there are some caveats with the rifles depending on what you get
2) It's all shooter skill
3) load development is a thing or you test factory rounds and pick the best one out of 5-10 shot groups
4) Optic would suggest Athlon BTR or discovery optic in HD line or higher
5) Comfort you'd laugh at this one but...
6) Rear bag and bipod

Now here is a list of rifles that can do it very reliably without the luck of the draw without killing the wallet sub 3k with glass
Savage 110, an r700 but i wouldnt suggest it, Howa 1500 you can buy barreled action and put it into a stock if you want, Ruger american probably should wait 10 seconds between shots, Cz 600 you can wait for the cz 600 + if you want you can get the cz600 range, they're evil but they make good firearms, CVA cascade LRH, Tikka CTR, Tikka varmint, Target ace, target game, B, Bergara b14 HMR, cheetos, springfield 2020 waypoint, sako s20, a used custom rifle but thats ####### and EE area. There's probably plenty others that can.

Not sure if i'm allowed to post links but tenda has a consignment r700 that fits the bill of what you want. All you need is a bipod which I guess harris will do, a rear bag, an some glass and scope mount or rings of choice.
https://www.gotenda.com/product/con...-700-6-5-creedmoor-24-bolt-action-rifle-good/
 
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gorby said:
Get a Tikka for the barreled action and throw it in an XRS, KRG Bravo, or the KRG Echo! That will be my next rifle. I have a friend that has the Tikka Varmint in .308 in the Echo chassis and I really liked shooting it. He was getting under MOA at 300m with factory ammo.

I have a Howa 1500 6.5CM in an XRS that also has the accuracy you are looking for, but I have been having some issues with blown primers lately, so I am bit sour on them, lol.
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This is interesting; I have a howa 1500 .223 that did blow primers on factory ammo (S&B 69gr match). My solution was to open the loads and remove 0.5gr of powder in each to make them less hot. The speed dropped a little but accuracy was still ok, and no more pierced primers). Just a hassle to reload them all (I had bought 10 boxes). My conclusion is that the S&B primers were maybe cheaper (thinner) or they do not like my firing pin. But I never got that issue with other factory ammo brands or any custom loads (CCI, 205m etc).
 
PlinkerFrog said:
This is interesting; I have a howa 1500 .223 that did blow primers on factory ammo (S&B 69gr match). My solution was to open the loads and remove 0.5gr of powder in each to make them less hot. The speed dropped a little but accuracy was still ok, and no more pierced primers). Just a hassle to reload them all (I had bought 10 boxes). My conclusion is that the S&B primers were maybe cheaper (thinner) or they do not like my firing pin. But I never got that issue with other factory ammo brands or any custom loads (CCI, 205m etc).
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I have been having issues with CCI SM Rifle primers - 6.5CM. and they also tend to blow at higher pressures. They started blowing with factory ammo and lighter loads as well, but that was before I talked wit ha gunsmith and learned that I had to clean out the pieces of primer from the bolt.

Since then, have found a good load, but I still had a blown primer when load testing, one out of 50.
 
gorby said:
I have been having issues with CCI SM Rifle primers - 6.5CM. and they also tend to blow at higher pressures. They started blowing with factory ammo and lighter loads as well, but that was before I talked wit ha gunsmith and learned that I had to clean out the pieces of primer from the bolt.

Since then, have found a good load, but I still had a blown primer when load testing, one out of 50.
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I also had some misfire before I realized that the pierced primers were leaving metal crap in the firing hole and it was jamming the firing pin. Now if I pierce one primer, I stop shooting it until I open and clean the bolt.
 
gorby said:
I have been having issues with CCI SM Rifle primers - 6.5CM. and they also tend to blow at higher pressures. They started blowing with factory ammo and lighter loads as well, but that was before I talked wit ha gunsmith and learned that I had to clean out the pieces of primer from the bolt.

Since then, have found a good load, but I still had a blown primer when load testing, one out of 50.
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Btw magnum primers are supposed to be thicker metal wise
 
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