- Location
- London,Ontario
Kind of sounds like government and politics huh?
Outfitters upset with some out-of-province hunters
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Kind of sounds like government and politics huh?
This topic really gets under my skin and I may tend to rant. That said there still are places to hunt and even more places that haven't been found yet. And as much as those outfitters and clients try they'll never out do the local boys
I can always have a good meal of nasty chili and go for a walk in the woods. The rumbling and stench will push all the deer within 100 miles outa there. And as a local boy I know where they'll run to.
I hope every one that hunts on their own fills the freezer and hangs a big one on the wall next season. Cheers
I can always have a good meal of nasty chili and go for a walk in the woods. The rumbling and stench will push all the deer within 100 miles outa there. And as a local boy I know where they'll run to.
I hope every one that hunts on their own fills the freezer and hangs a big one on the wall next season. Cheers
- Location
- London,Ontario
x2 powdergun.. Good luck to you in the 08 season as well
troutseeker
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Prince George, BC
Outfitters... I guess they work a few months a year and collect UI the rest of the time?
I have no sympathy for this unscrupulous type of guide/outfitter. There is one such "outfitter" around my parents property who has wrecked it for locals by offering a "trespass fee" to local land owners for animals taken by his clients. Not to mention the shooting shacks and mineral licks (mineral licks not intended for livestock are urinals) strewn about crown land, the list goes on..
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I moderate the Canadian Hunting section of a large US based duck hunting website. For most resident waterfowl hunters in Canada, NR alien hunting is a big issue. The leasing/buying of prime land by Americans who just happen to bring up a new group of "friends" every week of the season is one issue. Outfitters that allow their clients to shoot full limits every day and then PAY Hutterites and Natives to take the birds off their hands is another. Shooting and dumping of birds is a common complaint.
The problem are real enough that in a response to numerous comlaints, Alberta put in a 6 day waterfowl license for NR aliens and has cut the kill numbers of certain species of geese only for NR aliens. More restrictions are likely to follow.
Most of the Americans who hunt here are great (I guess -- I've only met 6 groups now and all of them were dumping birds, not retrieving birds shot, or trying to give them away to anybody driving by) but a growing number seem to be viewing hunting in Canada as their God-given right. They get indignant that anyone here would even think of restricting their "right" to kill several hundred birds a week.
One fella, when called out on his pics showing that he had killed 600+ birds in 10 days, then tried to explain it away as "group hunts" and stated that they gave all of their birds away to the "Alberta orphanages -- and those kids were some damned glad to get some meat in their diets too."
Never heard from him when it was pointed out that there hasn't been an orphanage in Alberta in for decades.
The problem are real enough that in a response to numerous comlaints, Alberta put in a 6 day waterfowl license for NR aliens and has cut the kill numbers of certain species of geese only for NR aliens. More restrictions are likely to follow.
Most of the Americans who hunt here are great (I guess -- I've only met 6 groups now and all of them were dumping birds, not retrieving birds shot, or trying to give them away to anybody driving by) but a growing number seem to be viewing hunting in Canada as their God-given right. They get indignant that anyone here would even think of restricting their "right" to kill several hundred birds a week.
One fella, when called out on his pics showing that he had killed 600+ birds in 10 days, then tried to explain it away as "group hunts" and stated that they gave all of their birds away to the "Alberta orphanages -- and those kids were some damned glad to get some meat in their diets too."
Never heard from him when it was pointed out that there hasn't been an orphanage in Alberta in for decades.
Nonsense!Where did you get this from?
Ted
Call the MNR Thunder Bay office and tell them you plan to "hunt at Fawn Lake in WMU 16C and nobody better try to stop you." See what they say to that.
Call the MNR Thunder Bay office and tell them you plan to "hunt at Fawn Lake in WMU 16C and nobody better try to stop you." See what they say to that.
Will they tell me that an outfitter, however, can hunt there?
Ted
Keep the other countries out of our country when it comes to hunting then!
I am all for it. and woohoo, it's my 1000th post
And for the Canucks that don't know how to play nice, take their licenses away!
Sound communist ways to me...
They told me "You can access this and that road, but no hunting within 5km of this lake and that lake, as there are outfitters operating there." Other roads have no access at all, not even walking, because the outfitters are using the roads too.
Then you can go to outfitters websites and see where they have outpost camps on these lakes.
And as I said in my earlier post, that is nonsense! I would ask whomever I was speaking with at MNR to show me where, in the regualtions, the outfitter is given exclusive opportunity to hunt there.
Again, this is nonsense!
If they refuse, or if they contend that it is in the regulations, then I would call your MLA and ask him how come you cannot have access to CROWN LAND, while non-residents can?
Ted
Again, this is nonsense!
If they refuse, or if they contend that it is in the regulations, then I would call your MLA and ask him how come you cannot have access to CROWN LAND, while non-residents can?
Ted
Got an URL Scott?
I moderate the Canadian Hunting section of a large US based duck hunting website. For most resident waterfowl hunters in Canada, NR alien hunting is a big issue. The leasing/buying of prime land by Americans who just happen to bring up a new group of "friends" every week of the season is one issue. Outfitters that allow their clients to shoot full limits every day and then PAY Hutterites and Natives to take the birds off their hands is another. Shooting and dumping of birds is a common complaint.
The problem are real enough that in a response to numerous comlaints, Alberta put in a 6 day waterfowl license for NR aliens and has cut the kill numbers of certain species of geese only for NR aliens. More restrictions are likely to follow.
Most of the Americans who hunt here are great (I guess -- I've only met 6 groups now and all of them were dumping birds, not retrieving birds shot, or trying to give them away to anybody driving by) but a growing number seem to be viewing hunting in Canada as their God-given right. They get indignant that anyone here would even think of restricting their "right" to kill several hundred birds a week.
One fella, when called out on his pics showing that he had killed 600+ birds in 10 days, then tried to explain it away as "group hunts" and stated that they gave all of their birds away to the "Alberta orphanages -- and those kids were some damned glad to get some meat in their diets too."
Never heard from him when it was pointed out that there hasn't been an orphanage in Alberta in for decades.
Nonsense or not it is in a lot of cases the MNR blocking the roads!
When your 100 miles from nowhere just how do you argue with a game warden who in most cases is looking to ticket you for any kind of nonsense violation!
www.refugeforums.com
I mod the Canadian Hunters section.
http://refugeforums.com/refuge/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=10&f=12
I mod the Canadian Hunters section.
http://refugeforums.com/refuge/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=10&f=12
You contact your MLA!
Do you guys in Ontario have any rememberance at all of what democracy is all about.
Ted
You contact your MLA!
Do you guys in Ontario have any rememberance at all of what democracy is all about.
Ted
Democracy is over rated. I prefer benign dictatorship.
With me as dictator of course.
You contact your MLA!
Do you guys in Ontario have any rememberance at all of what democracy is all about.
Ted
& how do you do that when your out of cell phone range & 100 miles from the nearest little town??
besides I hate autimated answering services!
Sounds like a road trip is in order during hunting season... would they actually stop you if you proceeded past them. What the hell would they charge you with? Hunting on crown land?
I'd love for my lawyer to fight that one in court.
Now they are allowed to hunt from the roads?
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