Yes they are different .The C3 used a an alloy hand stop that had apiece of foam that was glued to the area where the web of your hand went.
The C3A1 used a plastic handstop with a spigot for the PH bipod
Parker hale m82-m87-C3-C3A1 Rifles
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Yes they are different .The C3 used a an alloy hand stop that had apiece of foam that was glued to the area where the web of your hand went.
The C3A1 used a plastic handstop with a spigot for the PH bipod
The hand stops are quite diffrent.
The C3 is cast aluminum with a 5/16" thick foam pad glued to it. The same thing can be found on the Parker Hale 1200 TX except it's bright and the C3 has a "parkerized" type finish on it. I've only seen a few of these. You won't find one of this in a retail store.The sling swivel is marked "Parker Hale" and screws into the stock rail in one of 11 positions.
On the other hand the C3A1 is a black nylon molded handstop machined to accept the bipod spigot. It fastens to the stock rail with a special screw which provides a pocket for the QD swivel shown in one of tps50701's posts. The bipod then affixes to the spigot.
There are 2 variations of the bipod for the C3A1...Type 1 - early with no ridge in the flat feet. Type 2 with the ridge. Lots of
counterfit Type 2's out there like versa pod, Indian Clone's sold on fleabay. If you buy a bipod pls check and make sure it is the swivel type and clearly marked " Parker Hale Made in England".
The stock rail for the C3 and C3A1 is the same.
Hope this helps.
The C3 is cast aluminum with a 5/16" thick foam pad glued to it. The same thing can be found on the Parker Hale 1200 TX except it's bright and the C3 has a "parkerized" type finish on it. I've only seen a few of these. You won't find one of this in a retail store.The sling swivel is marked "Parker Hale" and screws into the stock rail in one of 11 positions.
On the other hand the C3A1 is a black nylon molded handstop machined to accept the bipod spigot. It fastens to the stock rail with a special screw which provides a pocket for the QD swivel shown in one of tps50701's posts. The bipod then affixes to the spigot.
There are 2 variations of the bipod for the C3A1...Type 1 - early with no ridge in the flat feet. Type 2 with the ridge. Lots of
counterfit Type 2's out there like versa pod, Indian Clone's sold on fleabay. If you buy a bipod pls check and make sure it is the swivel type and clearly marked " Parker Hale Made in England".
The stock rail for the C3 and C3A1 is the same.
Hope this helps.
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^ PM'd!
I think it's real important to get as many pics as possible so that people looking for these hard to find parts have an easier time making something to spec.
Speaking of which, here's a challenge: could any of you get a few good quality, descriptive pics of the real deal(s) (i.e. C3 and/or C3A1) and post them here?
I think it's real important to get as many pics as possible so that people looking for these hard to find parts have an easier time making something to spec.
Speaking of which, here's a challenge: could any of you get a few good quality, descriptive pics of the real deal(s) (i.e. C3 and/or C3A1) and post them here?
C3 & C3A1 Handstop Pics
C3A1 Left - C3 Right
C3 Handstop alone
The CF did use the silver ones as well as the blackened aluminum
C3 Sling Swivel
Hope this clears up the confusion.
For the sake of putting things in this thread that are factual:
Please PM me with any specific questions that you might have - I want people to only be getting the utmost correct information
It only confuses people when someone say's something without having all the facts.
This is not an attack on anyone - I want everyone who references this thread to get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
All the best, Carl
Here's the pics as promised guys:Two totally different animals!
I'll snap some pics of the C3 handstop when I have a sec
Cheers, Carl
C3A1 Left - C3 Right
C3 Handstop alone
The CF did use the silver ones as well as the blackened aluminum
C3 Sling Swivel
Hope this clears up the confusion.
For the sake of putting things in this thread that are factual:
Please PM me with any specific questions that you might have - I want people to only be getting the utmost correct information
It only confuses people when someone say's something without having all the facts.
This is not an attack on anyone - I want everyone who references this thread to get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
All the best, Carl
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Agree 100% on leaving no speculation - only facts, but that begs the question: how was the C3 meant to be used/deployed? Off of sandbags/available terrain? Off-hand?
Please advise!
You got it!
According to the CF, you used the sling in the prone position, more so than any other position - in addition to the Hawkins position.
This entailed getting as close to the ground as possible and taking a firm grip around the handstop.
I've tried this myself, and found it to be a very uncomfortable position, if you're a bigger fellow - which I am. I would have made a horrible sniper
- so I became a wpns tech insteadFor what it's worth, the older gen guys I knew used everything and anything to get into position for shooting. They even went as far to use Harris bipods(private purchase mind you - never officially adopted) - predates the PH one.
Cheers, Carl
delta1
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Carl:
Great stuff, Is there a way of finding out who made the wood Chamber stick or get the specs on the size of it? Also was it made from Oak wood as a single piece or does the dowel end come out of the handle?
regards Tim
Great stuff, Is there a way of finding out who made the wood Chamber stick or get the specs on the size of it? Also was it made from Oak wood as a single piece or does the dowel end come out of the handle?
regards Tim
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delta1
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Carl:
Where all of the cutouts for the kit in the Pelican case for the C3A1 in the smae spots? Or was this up to the tech specialist? Is it possible to get an inside the case picture of an original case?
I do not want to cut into the foam on my case and then find out I'm not right.
Regards Tim
Where all of the cutouts for the kit in the Pelican case for the C3A1 in the smae spots? Or was this up to the tech specialist? Is it possible to get an inside the case picture of an original case?
I do not want to cut into the foam on my case and then find out I'm not right.
Regards Tim
I goofed!!
It was a M82 for sale on Gunbroker....item #123709723
I got happy to quick...I quess I shoud read insted of looking at pics( a habit I developed on the "wifes under 30 thread")
Dude, you didn't goof that bad! According to Jane's:
Seems like a good starting point for a C3 build!
The chamber stick didn't really have anything to identify the manufacturer at all.
It looks as though it was made out of some close grained wood - I'd hazard a guess of oak or ash - it being as blond as it is.
The handle and the rod were seperately manufactured pieces.
I don't have a problem taking dimensions of mine - I was contemplating getting a woodworking buddy of mine to make some up for the masses of C3/C3A1 collectors out there
Cheers, Carl
