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[Grizzly Adams]

Dragged I would think.

There are some things one doesn't talk about.

Grizz

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

From the Cambridge dictionary:

Drag : the force that acts against the forward movement of something that is passing through a gas or a liquid.

 

[diopter]

Interesting. Looks like using Bungee cords or wire to keep the skis from rotating dangerously around the landing wheel axles. Wouldn't want the ski tips to dig in on landing would we. Or hit the wing for that matter.

 

[1-trident-1]

diopter, the Soviets didn't issue socks, they issued "foot wrappings" Portyanki.

There are a lot of bare feet on the corpses in that photo. Looks like one corps still has its Valenki (felt boot)

I would think that the Finns wouldn't let such precious things go to waste on a corpse. I had a pair of those felt boots, with leather soles on them around 50 years ago. I think they were around a buck at the 3Vets store. I went back a year later and they were all gone. Should have bought half a dozen pair.


The Finns didn't have the resources to maintain prisoners. One of the reasons both sides fought so voraciously. I wonder if that pile of corpses stood in front of a firing squad at that point or if they were dragged there??

they didn't maintain prisoners, they handed them over to the germans, who used them for labour.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

IL-4 dorsal gunner, two angles:

 

[HuskyDude]

View from the gun turret of a Lancaster bomber as it soars over London

 

[bearhunter]

Dragged I would think.

No drag marks. I would say they stood them in line and shot them, left them where they lay and did another relay. It's a typical scenario. Usually no one is allowed to take photos of.

 

[Tikka223]

Some of those bodies have some pretty contorted positions. They didn’t just fall where they stood. They were piled there.

 

[Sharps '74]

IL-4 dorsal gunner, two angles:

What's the aircraft in the background and what's with the 'wings' on the turret canopy?

 

[Ganderite]

maybe to control the wind and reduce buffeting?

 

[Ghubert]

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Current Toronto hunting map according to goggle

 

[diopter]

maybe to control the wind and reduce buffeting?

Perhaps turret is not powered and fins recenter the turret?

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

Aircraft in background appears to be another Il-4.

I think the "wings" on the turret served to counteract aerodynamic forces as the turret is rotated. We see similar on other turrets, but I'm damned if I can find any other examples.

Some folks believe that aerodynamics are no consideration at all when it comes to turrets.

This B-17G was fitted with an experimental chin turret armed with 6 fixed .50 cal. machine guns, designed by Armaments Officer Mike Mazer. The firing of the guns was controlled by the Pilot. Aircraft 42-31435 successfully completed many operational sorties with the new nose gun installation but, while conclusively proving the mechanical practicability of the design, a temporary cessation of head-on attacks by enemy attacks prevented the proof of its effectiveness. The ship crashed returning from a bombing mission on July 6, 1944.

 

[donor]

Perhaps turret is not powered and fins recenter the turret?

I think that's partly correct.MV-3 turrets were not powered-they were manually operated.Winglets on turret counteract drag forces of gun and gun gap in turret.That supposedly helped with traversing turret.

That info was posted some time ago on Russian modeling site and there was some discussion about it.

Btw-that turret originally came with 7.62 Shkas MG.Winglets were added later and made even larger when Berezin MG was installed.It had to be turned 90 deg to fit into turret.

Berezin gun itself is worth few pictures.It was used in all Soviet bombers after 1941 and most of Soviet fighters until 1950.

Here is fitted in Il-2 rear gunner position and in Yak fighter (gun on rear position).

 

[diopter]

Aha, So the fins are an attempt to balance the drag of the MG barrel.

 

[diopter]

HMS Agincourt

I can't find a decent picture of her her, so instead some videos to show the details.

 

[Ganderite]

I have poste this picture before. My father took it in 1942.

The bottom of the picture shows a Long and Lat. Today I plotted where that was.

 

[HuskyDude]

Need to write someone like Eric Grove from Drain the Oceans...
Could be the start of a new episode!!!!

How cool would that be!!!!

 

[Ganderite]

In the original print, you can see the guy on the bridge looking up. I read lips (in German). He is saying "Oh Sh!t!"

The plane was heading home and dropped own through the clouds over water. In front, they saw a sub in the process of surfacing. It was a quick action.

Tri-X. K2 filter.

 

[HuskyDude]

Don't know why I assumed it was hit by dept chargers there...
Did they finally sink her?