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Albanian SS used the fez and I believe the Bosnians did also.

Albanian SS was Skanderbeg.

A ticked-off Albanian OR Bosnian with a K98k or a machine-gun is no laughing matter! Not all that long ago they were using them on each other.
 
Smellie, brother come on. You'll have to admit that its very hard to take anyone seriously who's wearing a Fez.

I have rolling around in my mind a Monty Python type skit featuring an Albanian SS officer conducting an "interview" trying to gain time sensitive information from his prisoner, who can't give up the info despite being grotesquely encouraged to talk due to uncontrollable, mocking laughter directed at the ridiculous "Fez'd" spectacle before him. Laugh2

Yea, John Clease as the Albanian for sure :).
 
Smellie, brother come on. You'll have to admit that its very hard to take anyone seriously who's wearing a Fez.

I have rolling around in my mind a Monty Python type skit featuring an Albanian SS officer conducting an "interview" trying to gain time sensitive information from his prisoner, who can't give up the info despite being grotesquely encouraged to talk due to uncontrollable, mocking laughter directed at the ridiculous "Fez'd" spectacle before him. Laugh2

Yea, John Clease as the Albanian for sure :).

Hey, at least their fezes are a subdued colour with nice dignified skull symbols on them (and the scimitar is on their collar flashes). They could all be wearing a bright red fez adorned with a sequinned scimitar insignia topped by a motto identifying them as a "Waah Waah"... I don't think even a Kar98k with fixed bayonet could make a Shriner fez look dignified. Actually, I bet a really quick way to completely destroy the remaining morale and unit pride of captured elite troops like the old Waffen SS would be to force them all to wear a Shriner fez and sash while parading them through the streets...
 
They consider their national characteristic to be “sisu” which means fortitude.

Sisu is a combination of stubborness, unyeilding, toughness, and never giving up no matter what the conditions are. Something that is needed to endure the dark long winters.
 
Himmler thought that muslim SS units would be the answer to his problems. For the most part they were found to be average when directly defending their own homes, and virtually worthless everywhere else. So they were a great help - to US.
 
Hey, at least their fezes are a subdued colour with nice dignified skull symbols on them (and the scimitar is on their collar flashes). They could all be wearing a bright red fez adorned with a sequinned scimitar insignia topped by a motto identifying them as a "Waah Waah"... I don't think even a Kar98k with fixed bayonet could make a Shriner fez look dignified. Actually, I bet a really quick way to completely destroy the remaining morale and unit pride of captured elite troops like the old Waffen SS would be to force them all to wear a Shriner fez and sash while parading them through the streets...

Ha! Yea,... Und Vee have Vay's ov making YOU talk!! LMAO!!
 
Larry Thorne.

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I wonder how a Waffen SS soldier in WWII was accepted by the US Army as an officer in Special Forces?? IIRC the Allies declared the SS to be a criminal organization and its members war criminals??

I'll bet there's a hell of a story behind that.
 
I wonder how a Waffen SS soldier in WWII was accepted by the US Army as an officer in Special Forces?? IIRC the Allies declared the SS to be a criminal organization and its members war criminals??

I'll bet there's a hell of a story behind that.

You realize that one of the top men of the US Space program was an un-prosecuted war criminal, right??

Larry Thorne wasn't party to any war crimes, or slave labour/ death camp allegations.... Unlike Wehrner Von Braun....
 
I wonder how a Waffen SS soldier in WWII was accepted by the US Army as an officer in Special Forces?? IIRC the Allies declared the SS to be a criminal organization and its members war criminals??

I'll bet there's a hell of a story behind that.

Easy..... He was 110% non Commie ;)
 
I wonder how a Waffen SS soldier in WWII was accepted by the US Army as an officer in Special Forces?? IIRC the Allies declared the SS to be a criminal organization and its members war criminals??

I'll bet there's a hell of a story behind that.

A good account of Lauri in english can be found here: http://everydaynormalguy1.########.ca/2011/04/this-time-you-will-hear-story-about.html

In here it does speak briefly about the USA
In August of 1953 US government made emergency law, which allowed former SS men to join US army. 1954, Larry A Thorne started his US military career as a recruit. Enlisting as a private his special skills were immediately apparent and he was promoted to sergeant and made an instructor in mountain and arctic warfare.

Not all SS were Hitler lovers or involved in war crimes. Some had different reasons for joining. Like Dsiwy stated, Lauri was 110% anti-communist. Also, after WWII, the USA had a new enemy.
 
Neat article.

Here's something you don't see every day:

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The ultimate fishing lodge, assuming you have all the time in the world to fly between lakes.

Here's some sense of the scale of the thing:

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Apparently it was about 30 knots slower than its land-bound sisters, and landing on anything choppier than glass-smooth was exciting in very bad ways. Kinda pretty, though.
 
Was that someone's attempt to compete with the Hughes 'Spruce Goose' for the title of largest, stupidest and ugliest seaplane?

BLASPHEMY!

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A couple of summers ago, we came home from San Diego through McMinville, Oregon specifically to see the awesome air museum and the Hughes H4. In person, she is huge, and doubtless underpowered, but a long, long way from ugly. The proportions are right, the lines very clean indeed, the engineering very sharp. It is a magnificent device, and aesthetically just about perfect.

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Slander not the H4, mate - she's a beautiful thing!

This, however, is one seriously homely mofo:

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Looks like a fat girl stuffed into spandex and cinched up with a belt or two.
 
Was that someone's attempt to compete with the Hughes 'Spruce Goose' for the title of largest, stupidest and ugliest seaplane?

Apparantly the US army did some testing on this concept many years ago and gave it up after doing some trials.

Folsom's Air Svc located in Greenville, Maine have been in the floatplane business for years and they found a set of these amphib floats, so they got a DC3 and rigged one up. They flew it to Oshkosh a few years back and later put it up for sale. I would have liked to see it.
 
I saw the Spruce Goose in the McMinnville Air Museum a few years ago and found it to be very impressive. The Evergreen Museum is a truly impressive facility and houses a nice collection. I particularly enjoyed seeing a Grumman OV-1 Mohawk in the Museum as I had spent some time in the right seat of one many moons ago.

Another nice aviation museum to see in this area is located on the coast at Tillamook, OR. It is housed in a massive WW2 blimp hanger and has a nice collection of military aircraft. Then there is the big Boeing museum on the south side of Seattle.
 
A good account of Lauri in english can be found here: http://everydaynormalguy1.########.ca/2011/04/this-time-you-will-hear-story-about.html

In here it does speak briefly about the USA

Not all SS were Hitler lovers or involved in war crimes. Some had different reasons for joining. Like Dsiwy stated, Lauri was 110% anti-communist. Also, after WWII, the USA had a new enemy.

I worked for some time at the museum in Maariahamina, Ahvenanmaa and there was a mess jacket with medal group to a former Finnish soldier that had a US decoration next to his Finnish and German medals. I'll have to see if I can find out who it was, but certainly the most unsual group I have seen.
 
I worked for some time at the museum in Maariahamina, Ahvenanmaa and there was a mess jacket with medal group to a former Finnish soldier that had a US decoration next to his Finnish and German medals. I'll have to see if I can find out who it was, but certainly the most unsual group I have seen.

Because of Finland's proximity and history with the Soviet Union, it is easy to see why many decided to keep on fighting, even after WWII was over. Somewhat similar (although he stopped soldiering after WWII), my great uncle of Estonian decent, first fought for Estonia, escaped to Finland and fought in an Estonian Unit for Finland, and then fought for Germany against the Soviets (after Finland stopped fighting). He was wounded more than once, yet kept going back.
 
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