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In early 1941, a scale model of the German battleship Bismark was made of dirt with wooden logs for the gun turrets. Made to train pilots from
the RAF in identifying the famous battleship at night.
The Bismark was sunk in May 1941 before the "adobe" Bismark saw much use. still there, you can find in on google map.
the RAF in identifying the famous battleship at night.
The Bismark was sunk in May 1941 before the "adobe" Bismark saw much use. still there, you can find in on google map.
Now THAT is interesting! Where is it? England I suppose.
In early 1941, a scale model of the German battleship Bismark was made of dirt with wooden logs for the gun turrets. Made to train pilots from
the RAF in identifying the famous battleship at night.
The Bismark was sunk in May 1941 before the "adobe" Bismark saw much use. still there, you can find in on google map.
Chinese used a lot of German equipment. Those MP18's are most likely made in Tsing Tao as they purchased the license to produce from the Germans. My guess is this photo is during the Japanese invasion of China pre WW2, possibly Battle of Shanghai.
Good day GunnutzNew day new picture
Cheers
Joe
Road trip, here I come!
Probably on private land and I risk getting my ass shot if I look without permission.
Probably on private land and I risk getting my ass shot if I look without permission.
YUP! It's on the White Sands Missile Range of the Alamogordo Army Air Field (now Holloman AFB).
You can’t visit the Adobe Bismarck unless you’ve got a pass for the range.
Left-hand fellow's helmet is a German 1935 type; the 1916 type had deeper skirts, much more "flare".
Interesting that the Tsing Tao Bergmanns/Schmeissers/call-'em-what-you-will were locally produced (1927 onward) as well as evolved beyond the 1918 German model AND in a far zippier calibre.
Be right interesting to play with one of those for a month or so, along with an MP-18I, MP-28II and some of their offspring.
We might really learn a few things from a calm, sober comparison of related types.
But we live in a Free Country, so we can't do that.
Interesting that the Tsing Tao Bergmanns/Schmeissers/call-'em-what-you-will were locally produced (1927 onward) as well as evolved beyond the 1918 German model AND in a far zippier calibre.
Be right interesting to play with one of those for a month or so, along with an MP-18I, MP-28II and some of their offspring.
We might really learn a few things from a calm, sober comparison of related types.
But we live in a Free Country, so we can't do that.
Good day Gunnutz
Cheers
Joe
Prior to the outbreak of the war, Germany and China had close economic and military cooperation, with Germany helping China modernize its industry and military in exchange for raw materials. More than half of German arms exports during its rearmament period were to China. Nevertheless, the proposed 30 new German-trained divisions in the National Revolutionary Army failed to materialize after Germany withdrew its support in 1938. By that time Adolf Hitler was forming an alliance with Japan against the Soviet Union.
That should explain the German equipment being used by the Chinese
Finally reading about wars and guns on Wikipedia till 2 in the morning for a week paid off!
Seen that before. Supposed to be in Italy, maybe Ortona.
Using a P14 in the sniper role.
Using a P14 in the sniper role.
Good day Gunnutz
Cheers
Joe
In the sniper photo, a more-or-less unaltered P-'14 rifle and a Bren.
The SCOPE, though, is a double-prism periscopic type, looks very like a Warner & Swazey Model of 1913. Canada bought 500 of them for Rosses. The US bought a bunch more, but they were not well-liked.
It would be a most interesting rifle to play with for a while.
I am just wondering WHO did this conversion?
And when?
And why?
I have seen P-'14s with PP scopes and with the Aldis and Winchester, but not with the W&S.
The SCOPE, though, is a double-prism periscopic type, looks very like a Warner & Swazey Model of 1913. Canada bought 500 of them for Rosses. The US bought a bunch more, but they were not well-liked.
It would be a most interesting rifle to play with for a while.
I am just wondering WHO did this conversion?
And when?
And why?
I have seen P-'14s with PP scopes and with the Aldis and Winchester, but not with the W&S.
