There was some nasty stuff among Cdn troops who were marooned in the UK awaiting ships for home. The majority of soldiers who served in the Cdn Army were British born, but they and the Australians were regarded as a breed apart and superior shock troops. I'd put that down to their experiences in a new land where things were more democratic and where people had to survive by their own initiative and wits. Cdn and Aussie officers were less class conscious and were generally more inclined to share information and plans with the troops and to expect and reward initiative from below. Inspirational leadership always beats leadership by fear and class superiority.
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There was some nasty stuff among Cdn troops who were marooned in the UK awaiting ships for home. The majority of soldiers who served in the Cdn Army were British born, but they and the Australians were regarded as a breed apart and superior shock troops. I'd put that down to their experiences in a new land where things were more democratic and where people had to survive by their own initiative and wits. Cdn and Aussie officers were less class conscious and were generally more inclined to share information and plans with the troops and to expect and reward initiative from below. Inspirational leadership always beats leadership by fear and class superiority.
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I agree with Purples assessment. My Grandfather was born in the London area of England and came and settled in Northern Ontario with his Parents (Sprucedale and Parry Sound area). Times were Tough there he told me and he joined the Army after moving to Toronto in 1914 with the 2nd Battalion East Ontario Regiment. He always struck me as CANADIAN although he was an Orangeman for sure.
Other than going to England during the War I don't think he ever cared to return there.
Other than going to England during the War I don't think he ever cared to return there.
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Interesting book, An Army Mutinies, bunch of this type written to psych Germans up for war. Written in 1937, inherited it from my dad.
https://www.amazon.com/Eine-Armee-meutert-Schicksalstage-Frankreich/dp/B001OJNGY8
Grizz
Post 18906, Silk road Muslim bandits.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/..._Marc_Aurel_Stein_(RESTORED)_(4073631151).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/..._Marc_Aurel_Stein_(RESTORED)_(4073631151).jpg
There is a good black & white movie starring the late Kirk Douglas re: French execution of Poilus following a failed attack; "Paths of Glory", IIRC. As a lawyer, he got to defend his own men but failed as he was up against the bureaucracy.
France would not allow the movie to be made on French soil so it was made in Germany using Bundesgrenschutzpolizei (Border Patrol) as French soldiers. This is why the drill was so immaculate.
My guess. Looks almost like the bolt handle got whacked ?
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Grizz
I would say the carbine in post 18906 is a German Kar 88 or a Gewehr 91, based on the sling arrangement.
It also appears to have a barrel jacket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFStuHVkMM
It also appears to have a barrel jacket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFStuHVkMM
My guess. Looks almost like the bolt handle got whacked ?
https://joesalter.ca/products/turkish-forestry-carbine
Grizz
You are comparing a Berthier to a Mauser. Mauser carbines had a turned down bolt because they spent more time slung in the backs of Cavalry and and artillery than in use. The straight bolt hurts the back slung bolt in and gets stuck in equipment if slung bolt out.
I agree with you Pblatzz. I think its a Mauser Model KAR 71. That way all the gents need is a .43 Mauser cartridge to be consistent.
Reminds me of my ex-in-laws or some of the guys I used to work with. No wonder I retired early! John
Reminds me of my ex-in-laws or some of the guys I used to work with. No wonder I retired early! John
