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I'm with Sail on this one as well,Model88 Carbine.Different receiver than the 71's plus lack of bolt knob being visible points to the spoon type bolt handle found on the Model 88 carbines.
 
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Regarding WW-1 films, PATHS OF GLORY was adapted from the book by Humphrey Cobb and based on events around the ill-fated Nivelle Offensive of 1917. After the mutinies in the French Army, they were generally relegated to a DEFENSIVE status only. An interesting point is that Kirk Douglas already was a Big Name in Hollywood.... and starred in the film...... and bankrolled it from his own money. He thought the project was that important, even in the scariest part of the Cold War. It is black-and-white and some parts of it are enough to give you nightmares.

Interesting enough, the French did have an unbreakable line facing them on the Left of their position in the Line. They took horrendous casualties in an uphill battle, buried many of their dead in the trench parados, and finally turned the position over to the British. The British held the feature, took a huge bunch of casualties and turned it over to the Canadians along with orders to TAKE the position. Julian Byng, likely the least-popular member of the General Staff, was given the job of commanding this impossible assault, so he turned to Andy McNaughton and Arthur Currie and they talked it over. The position on our maps is shown as Vimy Ridge. You know the rest of the story.

In the Summer and Fall of 1919, Europe was starving. Every ship which could float was hauling Canadian foodstuffs to a war-weary, starving Europe. Of the Armies, Tommy had gone home. Fritz had gone home. The Poileux had all gone home. The Canadians were stuck in harsh conditions in camps in Wales, waiting patiently for transport home. They did not understand WHY they were still overseas: there had been plenty of shipping to GET them overseas, why was there NONE to bring them home? Dissension rose and there was violence in more than one camp. The Government was no help; they were firmly on-side with the handful of multimillionaires who controlled the available foodstocks (some of whose families are still in the business)..... and things did fester. This situation was the subject of a colour film (with some good Ross Rifle footage) made jointly in the 1980s by the CBC, the NFB and the BBC. It was called GOING HOME and it was broadcast exactly ONCE, then buried and (hopefully) forgotten. CBC denies that it ever existed. BBC denies that it ever existed. NFB denies that it ever existed. I have seen it and it is ROUGH. DO try to get your hands on a bootleg copy; it is WORTH the effort.
 
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Regarding WW-1 films, PATHS OF GLORY was adapted from the book by Humphrey Cobb and based on events around the ill-fated Nivelle Offensive of 1917. After the mutinies in the French Army, they were generally relegated to a DEFENSIVE status only. An interesting point is that Kirk Douglas already was a Big Name in Hollywood.... and starred in the film...... and bankrolled it from his own money. He thought the project was that important, even in the scariest part of the Cold War. It is black-and-white and some parts of it are enough to give you nightmares.

Interesting enough, the French did have an unbreakable line facing them on the Left of their position in the Line. They took horrendous casualties in an uphill battle, buried many of their dead in the trench parados, and finally turned the position over to the British. The British held the feature, took a huge bunch of casualties and turned it over to the Canadians along with orders to TAKE the position. Julian Byng, likely the least-popular member of the General Staff, was given the job of commanding this impossible assault, so he turned to Andy McNaughton and Arthur Currie and they talked it over. The position on our maps is shown as Vimy Ridge. You know the rest of the story.

In the Summer and Fall of 1919, Europe was starving. Every ship which could float was hauling Canadian foodstuffs to a war-weary, starving Europe. Of the Armies, Tommy had gone home. Fritz had gone home. The Poileux had all gone home. The Canadians were stuck in harsh conditions in camps in Wales, waiting patiently for transport home. They did not understand WHY they were still overseas: there had been plenty of shipping to GET them overseas, why was there NONE to bring them home? Dissension rose and there was violence in more than one camp. The Government was no help; they were firmly on-side with the handful of multimillionaires who controlled the available foodstocks (some of whose families are still in the business)..... and things did fester. This situation was the subject of a colour film (with some good Ross Rifle footage) made jointly in the 1980s by the CBC, the NFB and the BBC. It was called GOING HOME and it was broadcast exactly ONCE, then buried and (hopefully) forgotten. CBC denies that it ever existed. BBC denies that it ever existed. NFB denies that it ever existed. I have seen it and it is ROUGH. DO try to get your hands on a bootleg copy; it is WORTH the effort.
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Why couldn't the troops go home on the empty food ships?
 
smellie said:
Regarding WW-1 films, PATHS OF GLORY was adapted from the book by Humphrey Cobb and based on events around the ill-fated Nivelle Offensive of 1917. After the mutinies in the French Army, they were generally relegated to a DEFENSIVE status only. An interesting point is that Kirk Douglas already was a Big Name in Hollywood.... and starred in the film...... and bankrolled it from his own money. He thought the project was that important, even in the scariest part of the Cold War. It is black-and-white and some parts of it are enough to give you nightmares.

Interesting enough, the French did have an unbreakable line facing them on the Left of their position in the Line. They took horrendous casualties in an uphill battle, buried many of their dead in the trench parados, and finally turned the position over to the British. The British held the feature, took a huge bunch of casualties and turned it over to the Canadians along with orders to TAKE the position. Julian Byng, likely the least-popular member of the General Staff, was given the job of commanding this impossible assault, so he turned to Andy McNaughton and Arthur Currie and they talked it over. The position on our maps is shown as Vimy Ridge. You know the rest of the story.

In the Summer and Fall of 1919, Europe was starving. Every ship which could float was hauling Canadian foodstuffs to a war-weary, starving Europe. Of the Armies, Tommy had gone home. Fritz had gone home. The Poileux had all gone home. The Canadians were stuck in harsh conditions in camps in Wales, waiting patiently for transport home. They did not understand WHY they were still overseas: there had been plenty of shipping to GET them overseas, why was there NONE to bring them home? Dissension rose and there was violence in more than one camp. The Government was no help; they were firmly on-side with the handful of multimillionaires who controlled the available foodstocks (some of whose families are still in the business)..... and things did fester. This situation was the subject of a colour film (with some good Ross Rifle footage) made jointly in the 1980s by the CBC, the NFB and the BBC. It was called GOING HOME and it was broadcast exactly ONCE, then buried and (hopefully) forgotten. CBC denies that it ever existed. BBC denies that it ever existed. NFB denies that it ever existed. I have seen it and it is ROUGH. DO try to get your hands on a bootleg copy; it is WORTH the effort.
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Again, I'm so glad you are posting again Smellie.
 
smellie said:
Regarding WW-1 films, PATHS OF GLORY was adapted from the book by Humphrey Cobb and based on events around the ill-fated Nivelle Offensive of 1917. After the mutinies in the French Army, they were generally relegated to a DEFENSIVE status only. An interesting point is that Kirk Douglas already was a Big Name in Hollywood.... and starred in the film...... and bankrolled it from his own money. He thought the project was that important, even in the scariest part of the Cold War. It is black-and-white and some parts of it are enough to give you nightmares.

Interesting enough, the French did have an unbreakable line facing them on the Left of their position in the Line. They took horrendous casualties in an uphill battle, buried many of their dead in the trench parados, and finally turned the position over to the British. The British held the feature, took a huge bunch of casualties and turned it over to the Canadians along with orders to TAKE the position. Julian Byng, likely the least-popular member of the General Staff, was given the job of commanding this impossible assault, so he turned to Andy McNaughton and Arthur Currie and they talked it over. The position on our maps is shown as Vimy Ridge. You know the rest of the story.

In the Summer and Fall of 1919, Europe was starving. Every ship which could float was hauling Canadian foodstuffs to a war-weary, starving Europe. Of the Armies, Tommy had gone home. Fritz had gone home. The Poileux had all gone home. The Canadians were stuck in harsh conditions in camps in Wales, waiting patiently for transport home. They did not understand WHY they were still overseas: there had been plenty of shipping to GET them overseas, why was there NONE to bring them home? Dissension rose and there was violence in more than one camp. The Government was no help; they were firmly on-side with the handful of multimillionaires who controlled the available foodstocks (some of whose families are still in the business)..... and things did fester. This situation was the subject of a colour film (with some good Ross Rifle footage) made jointly in the 1980s by the CBC, the NFB and the BBC. It was called GOING HOME and it was broadcast exactly ONCE, then buried and (hopefully) forgotten. CBC denies that it ever existed. BBC denies that it ever existed. NFB denies that it ever existed. I have seen it and it is ROUGH. DO try to get your hands on a bootleg copy; it is WORTH the effort.
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one of those Canadians that waited to go home and caused his father much consternation was Garfield Weston:

“The war also personally touched George Weston and family, with eldest son Garfield volunteering for overseas duty as a "Sapper" in the Canadian Expeditionary Force from 1917 to 1919. While in uniform Garfield toured the world-famous British biscuit factories and came away convinced that a similar, high quality product could be successfully manufactured and marketed in Canada.[SUP][21]


[/SUP]Garfield did make it France and found time to tour some French pastry shops as well while (according to the family history) some of the other Canadian lads visited the brothels. Given the very religious upbringing it is quite probable.
 
Yes, I had already read that. But wikipedia claims, "In 1904, the rifle's design was changed to remove the barrel shroud and more wood placed on it to protect the person's hands from being burned." So there may have been earlier versions with a shroud, like the one in the photo seems to have...

Does anyone on this forum own a Hanyang 88 Carbine or at least have a clear photo of one?

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While others prepared for war, Hermann launched an attack on every Chinese smorg in the conquered nations. Lucky for us, it made him too portly to mount an escape in '45. Here he is meeting new friends on a pretty spring day:

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This is a man already dead. When these pics were taken, he must have had the cyanide handy somewhere on his substantial person in the event the trial didn't go as he'd hoped.

Looks like prison food didn't agree with him:

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Between his capture and death in September of '46, I guess he had a chance to shed a few pounds.
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
While others prepared for war, Hermann launched an attack on every Chinese smorg in the conquered nations. Lucky for us, it made him too portly to mount an escape in '45. Here he is meeting new friends on a pretty spring day:

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This is a man already dead. When these pics were taken, he must have had the cyanide handy somewhere on his substantial person in the event the trial didn't go as he'd hoped.

Looks like prison food didn't agree with him:

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Between his capture and death in September of '46, I guess he had a chance to shed a few pounds.
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Yes, it actually helped him mentally as well as physically. I recall an exchange between him and the US prosecutor Jackson that didnt go well for Jackson.
 
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