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Oh, my! I looked at 19910 and said, "That can't be a Portuguese Harvard dropping bombs. Harvards might have worked as fighters (in a pinch), but they were never bombers!"

Well, it was actually a Portuguese Harvard and it was actually dropping bombs.

Heck of a career change for what was supposed to be a trainer!

That landscape below looks unfriendly......

My Dad worked as a fitter for Can Car & Foundry at Thunder Bay, the outfit that built the centre sections for the Trackers used by the RCN. One day he told me that he would be working at the local airport on a batch of Harvards being prepped for export to an unspecified country.
They were Harvards and were being fitted with bomb racks. For a nation of "Peacekeepers", we sure are good at arming other nations to make war on their own people.
 
Foreign military sales aren't a bad idea. They create revenue and employment while keeping your own R&D and production base warmed up in case of need. Kanada has a history of starting from cold which means long lead times and high costs. We'd never make it to a serious war in time.:sok2
 
The point was - masquerading as a "peace keeping nation" before the UN was just so much hypocrisy.

You know that better than most .....
 
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HMCS Windsor (SSK 877)

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HMCS Corner Brook (SSK 878)
 
Canada isn't even in the top 10 of arms exporters.

The top ten arms exporting countries in 2018

https://www.army-technology.com/features/arms-exports-by-country/

Canada jumped from fifteenth to twelfth largest exporter of military hardware in the world.

Canada now the second biggest arms exporter to Middle East, data show

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-now-the-second-biggest-arms-exporter-to-middle-east-data-show/article30459788/
 
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HMCS Windsor (SSK 877)

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HMCS Corner Brook (SSK 878)

Our National collection of Antiques. :(

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/canadian-navy-pressing-ahead-on-life-extensions-for-submarines#:~:text=The%20clock%20has%20been%20ticking,last%20will%20retire%20in%202027.


Grizz
 
Ok, I know close to nothing about submarines but missing tiles and what looks like moss growing on a vessel can't be good, right?

Missing anechoic tiles (there are over 20,000 of them on the Victoria class) are normal wear and tear, but loss does degrade acoustic signature.
 
Surprised no one mentioned that Corner Brook seems to be listing somewhat. Maybe being pull in to dock?

Were they the Upholder class or the UpYours class?
 
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The Tridente-class submarines, also designated as U 209PN, are diesel-electric submarines based on the Type 214 submarine developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW) for the Portuguese Navy.

This class of submarines was acquired by Portugal to replace the previous submarines of the Albacora class, then being operated by the navy. Originally, HDW proposed the Type 209 submarine (U-209) during the competition, but decided to later enter a new proposal based on the Type 214. It is for this reason that the Tridente class is commonly designated as the U 209PN.

The class and its ships are the first to not be named after marine animals, thus breaking a tradition retracing back to 1913, when the first submarine entered service with the Portuguese Navy.

Ships
The Tridente-class submarines are wrongly classed in the "diesel-electric" class. Their propulsion is exclusively electric, with electric motors powered by batteries. These batteries may be charged while submerged by "fuel-cells" (inverse electrolysis) for which, this submarine carries a huge supply of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. Also, and solely as a second solution for recharging the batteries, this submarine carries two powerful diesel-electric generators (1.000 KVA) for use only when surfaced, or at snorkel depth .

Submerged, from Lisbon, Portugal, submarines of the class may reach the Cape of Good Hope and return, in 15 days.


Pennant Name Laid down Commissioned Status
S160 NRP Tridente 2005 May 2010 In service
S161 NRP Arpão 2005 December 2010 In service

Type: Attack submarine
Displacement:
1,700 tons (surfaced)
2,020 tons (submerged)
Length: 67.7 m (222 ft)
Beam: 6.35 m (21 ft)
Draught: 6.6 m (22 ft)
Propulsion: Diesel-electric, fuel cell AIP, low noise skew back propeller
Speed:
20 knots (37 km/h) submerged
10 knots (19 km/h) surfaced
6 knots (11 km/h) AIP system
Range: 12,000 nautical miles (22,000 km) at 8 knots (15 km/h)
Endurance: 45 days
Test depth: superior to 300 m (984 ft)
Capacity: 14
Complement:
7 officers
10 petty-officers
16 enlisted
Sensors and
processing systems:
Kelvin Hughes KH-1007 (F) navigation radar
Atlas Elektronik GmbH ISUS 90 combat management system
Armament:
(8) 533 mm torpedo tubes, (4) subharpoon-capable
12 × WASS Blackshark torpedo reloads
 
Today in History

On 1 of August 1944 Warsaw Uprising started.One of the most tragic events in Polish history it went on for two months and caused great loss of life and destruction of Warsaw.

Many allied air crews took part in effort to bring supplies to city.Around 41 aircraft were lost with 360 aircrew onboard.

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Today in History

On 1 of August 1944 Warsaw Uprising started.One of the most tragic events in Polish history it went on for two months and caused great loss of life and destruction of Warsaw.

Many allied air crews took part in effort to bring supplies to city.Around 41 aircraft were lost with 360 aircrew onboard.

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Warsaw_Uprising_by_Deczkowki_-_Kolegium_A_-15861.jpg

A interesting variety of weapons in the photos , the top shows a Polish fighter with a Sten gun. Possibly made by Long Branch , as they used that type of the loop butt stock , bottom photo has a Pole with a Thompson SMG , actually a Model 1928A1 and what looks to be a captured 98K Mauser with bayonet and to the far right a Italian Beretta Model 38 SMG
 
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Yes, one would think that the Germans would be " up there" regarding making good subs. Wouldve been nice to get state of the art German subs....

I'm not an engineer, but after perusing a hundred years of submarine design. I see a few definite design faults. Germans have gotten too arrogant.:(

Grizz
 
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