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North Americian F108 Rapier. Cancelled along with the B70


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That's a copy of the Avto arrow
 
I swear the legend of the Arrow, and its "potential capabilities" grows with every year.

It was ahead of its time, and a disgrace that it was cancelled to appease the USA defence industry. But I doubt very much it would be in any way a contender against current fighter aircraft.

Still, one of the great "what ifs" of Canadian history.

 
I swear the legend of the Arrow, and its "potential capabilities" grows with every year.

It was ahead of its time, and a disgrace that it was cancelled to appease the USA defence industry. But I doubt very much it would be in any way a contender against current fighter aircraft.

Still, one of the great "what ifs" of Canadian history.


What General Lewis McKenzie stated at the beginning of the video is true . The Avro Arrow is a viable air frame design and given the that aircraft are now lighter and stronger using composites and hi grade aluminium alloys that never existed at the time of the original Arrow design and manufacture .As for the combat electronic suites in the aircraft they are smaller and lighter integrating them into the aircraft is relatively easier . The Aircraft was advanced well beyond decades of what American and Russian military aircraft manufactures could ever hope to build at the time and if it were built it only follows that generational modifications would only improve and enhance performance. Sometimes the best solution is to look outside the box . Given the amount of money that Government wastes every year on projects that are designed only to provide jobs and deliver questionable results at best . This seems to be a lot more feasible industry to invest in than simply bailing out Bombardier time and time again
 
Well, if we're talking Canadian operated interceptors, spare a thought for the CF-101 Voodoo:

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One of the more "lawn-dart" loking designs of the time.

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Now occupying plinths and poles all over Canada.

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I swear the legend of the Arrow, and its "potential capabilities" grows with every year.

It was ahead of its time, and a disgrace that it was cancelled to appease the USA defence industry. But I doubt very much it would be in any way a contender against current fighter aircraft.

Still, one of the great "what ifs" of Canadian history.

Kind of like marrying a widow...no one in life compares to a dead husband.
 
Well, if we're talking Canadian operated interceptors, spare a thought for the CF-101 Voodoo:

CF-101-2.jpg


One of the more "lawn-dart" loking designs of the time.

RCAF_CF-101B_Voodoo.jpg


101010.jpg


Now occupying plinths and poles all over Canada.

robmaceycf101.jpg
My all-time favourite warbird. I used to spend many, many hours at CFB North Bay watching the coming and going of dozens of different types of military aircraft, the Voodoo was always my favourite, especially the nighttime departures with those " boom-boom " hard light afterburners..........spectacular!!
 
What General Lewis McKenzie stated at the beginning of the video is true . The Avro Arrow is a viable air frame design and given the that aircraft are now lighter and stronger using composites and hi grade aluminium alloys that never existed at the time of the original Arrow design and manufacture .As for the combat electronic suites in the aircraft they are smaller and lighter integrating them into the aircraft is relatively easier . The Aircraft was advanced well beyond decades of what American and Russian military aircraft manufactures could ever hope to build at the time and if it were built it only follows that generational modifications would only improve and enhance performance. Sometimes the best solution is to look outside the box . Given the amount of money that Government wastes every year on projects that are designed only to provide jobs and deliver questionable results at best . This seems to be a lot more feasible industry to invest in than simply bailing out Bombardier time and time again


well when the Arrow was cancelled there were FASTER, BETTER and CHEAPER options capable of performing the same role.... it doesnt get any simpler than that. And as wonderful as a new "Arrow" would be to develop and build in Canada (and I am ALL for that!) the estimate of $12bn for full life cycle of 100 units is so funny that if I hadnt already lost my sense of humor ... I would wet my pants. Canadian military procurement couldnt organize a piss up in a whorehouse for less than $10bn ... and anyone that thinks we could get this dream "wheels up" for $12bn ... particularly with no offsetting foreign orders/sales to bring fixed costs down is simply eating too many wild mushrooms.
 
The Wright Brothers monument last spring at the Outer Banks NC when the present and past met.

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The only three remaining Lancasters, "Just Jane, VeRA and Boomer"

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Thanksfully it's not as dire as that, mate. The CWH Lanc and the BBMF Lanc are the last two flyables. Just Jane taxis under her own power, and there's talk of getting her airborne again. The Ian Bazalgette Lanc does engine runs (now all four make that crackling good Merlin song) and several more live in museums in various states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_Avro_Lancasters

Every one of those old girls that we can get flying again is a triumph. I've attended world-class air museums and there's something very sad about all that magnificent power made mute. I very much prefer places that operate aircraft (like the Flying Heritage Collection). When they don't fly them, it's more an "aircraft masoleum" than an air museum for me.
 
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