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cornelunc said:
The Communism was more blood thirsty than Nazi, only Stalin killed 30 millions innocent Soviet citizens. I regret the defeating of Germany.
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Communism is still killing people in many parts of the world,I'm sure Germany would be still killing them too is it wan't stopped.

Not to mention many nations in Europe would be gone by now.Holocaust?That was only beginning of a very long line of nations to be completely exterminated.Some argue current lefties policies are the continuation of that.
 
No worries, history tend to repeat itself. Europe will have to turn to some form of nationalism to deal with foreign immigrants, just wait.
As for your defeated Nazi germany, once they have dealt with allies, soviets and Slavic people, they would have started exterminating all its allies, like Japan, Romania and Italy. Once that's done, they would go after neutral states like Spain and Swiss and may be even Scandinavs. After that they would be cleansing themselves and look for the enemy within, as it would not be able to exist without enemy. This would have led to their own downfall sooner or later, so the history would be able to repeat itself once again.
cornelunc said:
The Communism was more blood thirsty than Nazi, only Stalin killed 30 milions inocent Soviet citizens. I regret the defeating of Germany.
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cornelunc said:
The Communism was more blood thirsty than Nazi, only Stalin killed 30 milions inocent Soviet citizens. I regret the defeating of Germany.
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Hello buddy , wake up , from where you got 30 millions , this is bull#### .

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This is report from minister of justice, general attorney and chief of police to Khruschev who came after Stalin's death , who hate Stalin ( funny thing that Khruschev participate in mass killings of "unconvinient " people .
From 1921 to 1954 642.980 were executed , 2 369 220 goes to jailtime , 765 180 were sent to Siberia .

Here is demographic increase of population of USSR first drop from revolution , second in WW2 .

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gewehr76 said:
No worries, history tend to repeat itself. Europe will have to turn to some form of nationalism to deal with foreign immigrants, just wait.
As for your defeated Nazi germany, once they have dealt with allies, soviets and Slavic people, they would have started exterminating all its allies, like Japan, Romania and Italy. Once that's done, they would go after neutral states like Spain and Swiss and may be even Scandinavs. After that they would be cleansing themselves and look for the enemy within, as it would not be able to exist without enemy. This would have led to their own downfall sooner or later, so the history would be able to repeat itself once again.
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I am Romanian. We have no evidence from German documents that existed a plan to exterminate us.
 
mikerock said:
Good thing the Ukranians aren't Russians so they don't need to be counted!
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You are right. To all who believe that Communism was smaller evil that Nazi I recommand a book :The Black Book of Communism-crimes-terror-repression by Stephane Courtois. Harvard University Press.
 
gewehr76 said:
No worries, history tend to repeat itself. Europe will have to turn to some form of nationalism to deal with foreign immigrants, just wait.
As for your defeated Nazi germany, once they have dealt with allies, soviets and Slavic people, they would have started exterminating all its allies, like Japan, Romania and Italy. Once that's done, they would go after neutral states like Spain and Swiss and may be even Scandinavs. After that they would be cleansing themselves and look for the enemy within, as it would not be able to exist without enemy. This would have led to their own downfall sooner or later, so the history would be able to repeat itself once again.
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Just wondering where you are getting these ideas from. Do you have any sources for this information, or are you just making it up?
 
Sounds like the agenda of 'Big Brother' in Orwell's "1984".

"Winston could not remember a time when Oceania had not been at war with Eurasia or Eastasia; it really didn't matter which ....."

Totalitarian regimes cannot exist without some state to make war on. If there isn't an enemy, they make one. This gives them licence to exert strict control of the population and national resources, organized towards the war effort.

This is something that isn't going to change any time soon .....


gewehr76 said:
No worries, history tend to repeat itself. Europe will have to turn to some form of nationalism to deal with foreign immigrants, just wait.
As for your defeated Nazi germany, once they have dealt with allies, soviets and Slavic people, they would have started exterminating all its allies, like Japan, Romania and Italy. Once that's done, they would go after neutral states like Spain and Swiss and may be even Scandinavs. After that they would be cleansing themselves and look for the enemy within, as it would not be able to exist without enemy. This would have led to their own downfall sooner or later, so the history would be able to repeat itself once again.
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Oh well here it goes.
Nazi Germany existed for Aryan race. Which was the best and the only master race to rule the world. Whole Nazi ideology was based on that. So once you start differentiate and segregate based on race you have no choice but to wage war on other nations that do not confirm to ideology. Then exterminate other races so that only Aryan race would exist. Holocaust is clear evidence of that.
It's clear as day that if the Nazi Germany would have won the ww2 they would start ww3 to get rid of all other races..
You don't need to be a history buff to see it or any kind of proof to understand it.
MetricMan said:
Just wondering where you are getting these ideas from. Do you have any sources for this information, or are you just making it up?
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here you go buddy.
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A man having his nose measured during Aryan race determination tests. 1940
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EugeneLED said:
Hello buddy , wake up , from where you got 30 millions , this is bull#### .

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This is report from minister of justice, general attorney and chief of police to Khruschev who came after Stalin's death , who hate Stalin ( funny thing that Khruschev participate in mass killings of "unconvinient " people .
From 1921 to 1954 642.980 were executed , 2 369 220 goes to jailtime , 765 180 were sent to Siberia .

Here is demographic increase of population of USSR first drop from revolution , second in WW2 .

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Soviet Data say Soviet killed no one, Soviet Data good. (Say with Russian accent)
 
The term used for non-Aryan races was "untermenschen" - sub-humans. This included Slavs, Jews, Gypsies and other "undesirables". For a chilling account of the process of racial determination, watch Kenneth Branagh in "Conspiracy", the story of the high level meeting organized and chaired by Adolph Eichmann and Reinhard Heydrich. The meeting was held at the Wannsee estate near Berlin in January of 1942.

No record or notes were to be taken, but that proved impossible to prevent. The movie is based on the only surviving record. The upshot was the formulation of the "Final Solution" to the Jewish problem - annihilation of the Jewish people in Europe. Other non-Aryans were just collateral victims, caught up in the Nazi net, victims of a state sanctioned genocide.

That a "civilized" nation like Germany could be the originator of such wholesale slaughter staggers the imagination. I've toured a concentration camp and the tour guide pointed out that we were not likely to see a song bird anywhere on the site. If we did, he wanted to know about it. he said that the place still had the pall of death about it and birds could detect it.

gewehr76 said:
Oh well here it goes.
Nazi Germany existed for Aryan race. Which was the best and the only master race to rule the world. Whole Nazi ideology was based on that.
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Absolutely.
Holocaust is the most sobering reminder of Nazi crimes, however people in the western world tend to forget that Nazis were much more vicious and brutal towards Slavic people, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians. Belorussia itself lost may be half of its population during ww2. While Holocaust is somewhat documented, extermination of Slavic race was not and numbers of people exterminated is mind boggling. Soviet union lost according to soviet sources 20 million lives during ww2. To say that it was minimalistic amount is understatement. So probably much more.



Sharps '63 said:
The term used for non-Aryan races was "untermenschen" - sub-humans. This included Slavs, Jews, Gypsies and other "undesirables". For a chilling account of the process of racial determination, watch Kenneth Branagh in "Conspiracy", the story of the high level meeting organized and chaired by Adolph Eichmann and Reinhard Heydrich. The meeting was held at the Wannsee estate near Berlin in January of 1942.

No record or notes were to be taken, but that proved impossible to prevent. The movie is based on the only surviving record. The upshot was the formulation of the "Final Solution" to the Jewish problem - annihilation of the Jewish people in Europe. Other non-Aryans were just collateral victims, caught up in the Nazi net, victims of a state sanctioned genocide.

That a "civilized" nation like Germany could be the originator of such wholesale slaughter staggers the imagination. I've toured a concentration camp and the tour guide pointed out that we were not likely to see a song bird anywhere on the site. If we did, he wanted to know about it. he said that the place still had the pall of death about it and birds could detect it.
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99th Anniversary of the beginning of the Battle of Vimy Ridge and we're getting a circle jerk about who is worse Nazi Germany or Stalinist USSR. Good work thread. Good work.
 
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