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[fingers284]

I think fingers was talking about Dive Bomber film from 1941.Devastators very prominently displayed and lots of beautiful shots of other navy types.Great aerial shots.

Sorry DAD and Yes this is the one...

 

[wce323078]

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tanks, tanks as far as the eye can see

I have to wonder how often they would throw tracks? The reason I ask is when I worked in TR in BC we had a number of what they called Tank Drills which were a drill mounted on what was suppose to be a Sherman Drive train. Any time some one new drove one some one would be called to it in a short time to re track the darn thing.

 

[bdft]

I worked on grapple yarders with complete Sherman undercarriage, glacis and all. I know exactly what you mean. We were constantly tightening track bolts and putting tracks back on.

 

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[Dark Alley Dan]

Man, that's quite the trailer. Hyperbole much? Still, looks fantastic. And in colour! Thanks for the tip, lads.

The Canadair Tutor is best known as the Snowbirds mount of choice. A lovely little agile thing, light on the controls and devoid of vices.

But do you know about the Snowbird's sister? The one that likes to drink and fight? Razor scars on her face? Propensity to cuss a lot? This is the Canadair CL-41G light ground attack aircraft, sold only to Malaysia:

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Apparently, Canadair (via our government of the day) sold 20 of these to the Malaysian government in 1967, about the time they were having a "misunderstanding" with a neighbour regarding the ownership of a small area of nothing in Borneo. It could carry 4000 pounds of bombs, rockets, gunpods, or air-to-air missiles on six hardpoints. Sadly, no guns. A few remain in museums, but they were used up over the years and none fly.

 

[grelmar]

Given the types of engagements we've been in for the past 30 or so years, why exactly is it that we're committing money to the possibly never to be delivered F-35, when we could have a fleet of these things covering our ground forces for, what I'm guessing, a single F-35 would cost?

 

[Donny Fenn1]

As above, if we are engaged in these bush war style support missions why don't we buy a bunch of these. Airtractor AT-802. Probably get 500 or so with money left over.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

Hell, why not find an underutilized aircraft plant and start cranking out IL-2 Stormoviks with turbine engines? Replace the rear gunner with a WO...

A guy can dream, can't he?

 

[Donny Fenn1]

Hell, why not find an underutilized aircraft plant and start cranking out IL-2 Stormoviks with turbine engines? Replace the rear gunner with a WO...

A guy can dream, can't he?

Whomever owns Hawker probably has the files for the Typhoon, Tempest and Sea Fury. DeHavilland for Mosquito or Hornet if we must have 2 engines.
The Payload of the AT-802 is particularly impressive but I'd take the vintage route too if you like.

 

[purple]

Whomever owns Hawker probably has the files for the Typhoon, Tempest and Sea Fury. DeHavilland for Mosquito or Hornet if we must have 2 engines.
The Payload of the AT-802 is particularly impressive but I'd take the vintage route too if you like.View attachment 172968

I like the nostalgia of the old mud beaters like the P-47, the F4U and the Skyraider, but the big idea these days is to re-open the A-10 Warthog production line. There's nothing much more effectiver against tanks or bad guys on the ground.

 

[Donny Fenn1]

I like the nostalgia of the old mud beaters like the P-47, the F4U and the Skyraider, but the big idea these days is to re-open the A-10 Warthog production line. There's nothing much more effectiver against tanks or bad guys on the ground.

Agree. But really given the targets of choice is an A-10 going to be any more effective than the planes we fancy? Four 20mms with linger time and various upgraded air to ground packages have to say something to bad guys, no?

 

[diopter]

Not with current air defense systems like ciws. Would be like using Zeppelins to deliver free falling nukes.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

Not sure how many stingers or similar the Taliban are operating. But if we've all completely lost our minds, there's really only one choice...

 

[grelmar]

Ju 87G-1...

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Not enough payload compared to the newer stuff, but attach the "Stuka Siren" underneath it, and watch the bad guys scatter like cockroaches in the light when you dive on them.

 

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[RifleDude]

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As above, if we are engaged in these bush war style support missions why don't we buy a bunch of these. Airtractor AT-802. Probably get 500 or so with money left over.

In a word..MANPADS

 

[Donny Fenn1]

In a word..MANPADS

Ok, I get that the Russians have MANPADS and they supply them to various factions depending what day of the week it is but does ISIS or other cavedwellers have the capability to maintain the system? I've the stinger supplied to the mujahadeen we're basically useless after a period of time due to neglect. Same thing with the current stuff? Plus how does VERBA and others stand up to current countermeasures? Plus a picture:

 

[Mosquito_magnet]

The Canadair Tutor is best known as the Snowbirds mount of choice. A lovely little agile thing, light on the controls and devoid of vices.

But do you know about the Snowbird's sister? The one that likes to drink and fight? Razor scars on her face? Propensity to cuss a lot? This is the Canadair CL-41G light ground attack aircraft, sold only to Malaysia:

Apparently, Canadair (via our government of the day) sold 20 of these to the Malaysian government in 1967, about the time they were having a "misunderstanding" with a neighbour regarding the ownership of a small area of nothing in Borneo. It could carry 4000 pounds of bombs, rockets, gunpods, or air-to-air missiles on six hardpoints. Sadly, no guns. A few remain in museums, but they were used up over the years and none fly.

I believe the RCAF bought some of the spare parts when Malaysia divested from them. Some of the RCAF's Tutors have parts, specifically the leading edges, that are provisioned for hard points.

Also, it's actually kinda funny to see such a big, clear picture of aircraft 128. I was literally dealing with paperwork regarding this exact aircraft this afternoon. Caught me off guard to see it on my screen when I'm at home looking and boomsticks and such.

 

[CV32]

Ok, I get that the Russians have MANPADS and they supply them to various factions depending what day of the week it is but does ISIS or other cavedwellers have the capability to maintain the system? I've the stinger supplied to the mujahadeen we're basically useless after a period of time due to neglect. Same thing with the current stuff?

MANPADS is a threat to every aircraft below about about 12,000 ft or so. If you can operate above those altitudes, employing precision guided munitions, you need not worry too much about them. But if your ordnance is guns, rockets, or dumb bombs, you need to get down there. Your opponent may not have any MANPADS, or only a handful of them, and the issue becomes about balancing risk.

Plus how does VERBA and others stand up to current countermeasures?

Verba is very new in the world of MANPADS, and claims a multi-spectral imaging IR seeker, which is likely very resistant to countermeasures. Most older MANPADS have only single- or dual-band guidance.

 

[Dark Alley Dan]

I believe the RCAF bought some of the spare parts when Malaysia divested from them. Some of the RCAF's Tutors have parts, specifically the leading edges, that are provisioned for hard points.

Also, it's actually kinda funny to see such a big, clear picture of aircraft 128. I was literally dealing with paperwork regarding this exact aircraft this afternoon. Caught me off guard to see it on my screen when I'm at home looking and boomsticks and such.

That's very cool, Magnet. Small world, huh?

What's 128 up to these days? Guarding a gate somewhere, or doing her regular job?