'Stovebolt six' was the pre-war 216. Splash oil system with dippers to lube the (babbitt) crank bearings and 4 to 8 pounds on the gauge, less when hot (creepy). The term grafted to the 235 and I haven't seen it applied to the 270 much, but maybe I don't get out enough. The 270 is interesting in that is was designed during the war for the US military that wanted a 6 with more oomf. When the war ended it became GM's standard light truck engine for years.
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'Stovebolt six' was the pre-war 216. Splash oil system with dippers to lube the (babbitt) crank bearings and 4 to 8 pounds on the gauge, less when hot (creepy). The term grafted to the 235 and I haven't seen it applied to the 270 much, but maybe I don't get out enough. The 270 is interesting in that is was designed during the war for the US military that wanted a 6 with more oomf. When the war ended it became GM's standard light truck engine for years.
Definitely correct about the Chevy & GM inline 6 , lots of torque, another excellent 6 was the Ford 300 cu in , or 4.9 lt ,
When he inserted the mouthpiece of his flamethrower into the Japanese bunker, and ignited his napalm; releasing 350 PSI of pressure in their tanks. There was a loud sound, and it seemed as if a dragon had opened its jaws and spat out a great blast of fire.
The unsuspecting and stunned men inside did not know the horror that was about to engulf them. They were instantly thrown into the center of a roaring inferno. A burning and roaring hell.
I felt a rush of glee as the flames shot up inside. It was not because of the dreadful congregation of agony that was about to overwhelm the enemy, but because of our success. No one could survive through the Pegs napalm fire.
Taking down the screaming Japanese soldiers was purely mercy killing. Sadly, the men were frantically trying to clean up the still-burning gasoline jelly that clung to their tortured bodies. The putrid stench of burned human flesh almost made me vomit.
Sergeant Basilone's eyes held a fury he had never seen before. He was not an executioner, but a true Marine doing his duty. "
- Chuck Tatum, United States Marines. Iwo Jima, 1945
The unsuspecting and stunned men inside did not know the horror that was about to engulf them. They were instantly thrown into the center of a roaring inferno. A burning and roaring hell.
I felt a rush of glee as the flames shot up inside. It was not because of the dreadful congregation of agony that was about to overwhelm the enemy, but because of our success. No one could survive through the Pegs napalm fire.
Taking down the screaming Japanese soldiers was purely mercy killing. Sadly, the men were frantically trying to clean up the still-burning gasoline jelly that clung to their tortured bodies. The putrid stench of burned human flesh almost made me vomit.
Sergeant Basilone's eyes held a fury he had never seen before. He was not an executioner, but a true Marine doing his duty. "
- Chuck Tatum, United States Marines. Iwo Jima, 1945
Martha Raye: entertainer, nurse, soldier. Little known facts.
Born Margaret Teresa Yvonne Reed in 1916, singer/actress/comedienne Martha Raye embarked on a show business career in early childhood, according to All Movie Guide:
Did you know that Martha Raye was a full bird Col in Army Reserve?
Many may be too young to have known the comedian, Martha Raye. She was a loud mouth actress/comedian from several years ago, much unlike the foul mouthed four letter word spewing comics of today. This is a little known fact about what she did, but truly a patriotic, good American by any standards.
For going to Vietnam, Col. Raye was considered a “hawk”. Hollywood blacklisted her for more then ten years. Most of the old time entertainers were made out of a lot sterner stuff than today’s crop of activists and whiners.
The following is from an Army Aviator friend who takes another trip down memory lane:
It was just before Thanksgiving ’67 and we were ferrying dead and wounded from a large GRF west of Pleiku, Vietnam. We had run out of body bags by noon, so the Hook (CH-47 CHINOOK) was pretty rough in the back.
All of a sudden, we heard a ‘take-charge’ woman’s voice in the rear. There was the singer and actress, Martha Raye, with a SF (Special Forces) beret and jungle fatigues, with subdued markings, helping the wounded into the Chinook, and carrying the dead aboard. ‘Maggie’ had been visiting her SF ‘heroes’ out ‘west’.
We took off, short of fuel, and headed to the USAF hospital pad at Pleiku. As we all started unloading our sad pax’s, a ‘Smart-Ass’ USAF Captain said to Martha…. Ms Ray, with all these dead and wounded to process, there would not be time for your show!
To all of our surprise, she pulled on her right collar and said… Captain, see this eagle? I am a full ‘Bird’ Colonel in the US Army Reserve, and on this is a ‘Caduceus’ which means I am a Nurse, with a surgical specialty…. now, take me to your wounded. He said, yes ma’am…. Follow me.
Several times at the Army Field Hospital in Pleiku, she would ‘cover’ a surgical shift, giving a nurse a well-deserved break.
Martha is the only woman buried in the SF (Special Forces) cemetery at Ft. Bragg.
Raye performed a similar service for G.I.s in two more wars, entertaining thousands and thousands of troops at U.S. military bases in Korea in the early 1950s and in Vietnam from 1965 to 1973. She is fondly remembered by generations of service members not just for her tireless efforts in staging shows for U.S. soldiers all over the world, but for uncomplainingly enduring the same conditions they did and for going far beyond the role of an entertainer by tending to troops in the field, including working with medivac units in Vietnam to pick up wounded Americans and assist in field hospitals.
For example, an October 1966 Associated Press article reported the following account:
Comedienne Martha Raye, a front-line trouper for 24 years, changed her routine last week. She donned fatigues and worked for two days in an Army field dispensary, cleansing wounds, changing bandages and comforting GIs wounded in a Mekong Delta battle.
The twangy-voiced brunette, who has gone from outpost to tiny outpost throughout Viet Nam to entertain American servicemen, sang, danced and ribbed the men of two Army aviation helicopter companies stationed in the Mekong Delta town of Soc Trang.
The next morning, the chopper pilots and their crews delivered Vietnamese soldiers to the paddy fields and marshlands of the delta to charge the entrenched Viet Cong. As the first helicopters settled into the landing zones, they were met by intense fire. The landing zones were in the stronghold of a Viet Cong battalion.
Additional troops were brought in, and in the battle that followed four American helicopters were shot down and 20 were damaged. American casualties began arriving by 8 a.m., at the small Soc Trang dispensary.
Miss Raye, a former nurse, arrived about the same time, dressed in Army fatigues and volunteering for duty.
“She worked all day — until 9 that night — doing everything she could,” one corpsman said.
One of the first things she did was donate a pint of blood to a badly wounded sergeant. Then it was hour after hour of scrubbing and preparing the wounded for surgery, helping the surgeons, changing bandages, and cheering up men awaiting evacuation to field hospitals in Vung Tau or Saigon.
Miss Raye’s show did not go on that night. The next morning she was back at the hospital in her stained fatigues, helping one doctor and eight corpsmen care for the patients.
Shortly before noon, when the work eased, Miss Raye flew 80 miles north to Vinh Long and performed that night for another unit of Army chopper crews who fly Vietnamese troops into battle.
“She did a lot for the morale of the men who’d been shot up, and she did a lot for ours, too,” said a corpsman at the dispensary.
As recognition of her efforts on behalf of U.S. service members, Martha Raye was given several honorary military designations, including the honorary ranks of lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army and colonel in the U.S. Marine Corps (leading to her being dubbed “Colonel Maggie” by troops in Vietnam). In 1993 she was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton for her service to her country, with a citation reading as follows:
A talented performer whose career spans the better part of a century, Martha Raye has delighted audiences and uplifted spirits around the globe. She brought her tremendous comedic and musical skills to her work in film, stage, and television, helping to shape American entertainment. the great courage, kindness, and patriotism she showed in her many tours during World War II, the Korean Conflict, and the Vietnam Conflict earned her the nickname ‘Colonel Maggie.’ The American people honor Martha Raye, a woman who has tirelessly used her gifts to benefit the lives of her fellow Americans.
Her service to U.S. troops was also commemorated after her death in 1994 via her burial with military honors in the Post Cemetery at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, a singular honor for a civilian:
Martha Raye’s exemplary service to the Army — including trips to Vietnam to entertain the Green Berets — earned her a funeral with military honors. Raye, who died in Los Angeles at age 78, requested several years [earlier] to be buried at Fort Bragg, home of the Green Berets.
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Portuguese soldiers of the 2nd Horse Squadron deployed in MUNHANGO in meetings with UNITA guerrillas already in the process of ceasefire all soldiers present in the photo of the 2nd Horse Squadron were my comrades at that time as I only left MUNHANGO on December 3, 1974 I went to the old Kuito Silva Porto where I stayed until 31 December 1974 and that day ended my stay in the Portuguese forces I returned to my land Moçâmedes in the south and then Tombwa where I stayed until 10 January 1976.
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Battleships. U. S. S. Wyoming leaving New York harbor around 1915.
Photograph shows aerial view of the U. S. S. Wyoming with thick black smoke blowing upwards from the smokestack towards a group of sailors standing in the crow's nest; crowds of sailors, dressed in white, are standing on the ship's deck.
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Berliet Tramagal, Museu Militar de Elvas.
History
Berliet Gazelle was the French answer to the GMC trucks, Morris, Austin, and others, which dating back to World War II still equipped most of the European armed forces in the 1950s/60s.
At a time when many of these countries were involved in conflicts in their colonies (France in the Algerian War, Belgium in the Congo, and Portugal in the midst of Colonial War), the need for a heavy, multipurpose, and all-terrain transport vehicle it was big.
Berliet technicians have designed a vehicle that is relatively simple to produce, robust and easy to maintain, capable of operating reliably in the most extreme terrains and climates.
In 1962, Metalúrgica Duarte Ferreira established an agreement with Berliet to assemble, under license in Tramagal, seven commercial models of various ranges and load capacity: the GAK, the GBK, the GLC, the GCK, the TBK, the TCK and the TFK . Production begins in February 1964 and, in the autumn of that year, Berliet makes the first demonstration of a truck for the Army, taking its model GBC-8 4x4 KT to the Alcochete firing range. Soon after, an order for 450 GBC-8 KT 4x4 military trucks was placed, satisfied between June 1965 and February 1966. The Berliet Tramagal trucks, as they are known, are now used in the three fronts of the Colonial War: in Angola, Mozambique and in Guinea-Bissau. In 1968, Berliet and Metalúrgica Duarte Ferreira began to develop a simpler truck, specially adapted to the needs of the Army. The car is slightly shorter and has a streamlined, straighter front of the car, with side openings in the engine compartment to facilitate ventilation and prevent overheating in difficult African conditions. The engine is now a diesel M420/30X with 135 horsepower.
In a period of ten years, between 1964 and 1974, the Tramagal assembly line delivered a total of 3,549 Berliet-Tramagal heavy tactical vehicles to the Portuguese Armed Forces, divided into three models: 1,670 GBC trucks of the 4x4 version and another 972 of the 6x6 version and 907 6x6 GBA copies. In 1976, 134 vehicles were sold to Angola and, three years later, another 120.
Technical Characteristics
Berliet Tramagal GBC 8KT CLD
Maximum length: 7.28M - Width: 2.4M - Height: 2.7M
Empty weight: 8000Kg. - 5000Kg load capacity.
Traction system: Six drive wheels
Engine: Magik MK520 multi-fuel 5cyl 7900cc Power: 125 hp
Maximum speed: : 80 km/h
Speed on uneven terrain: 35 km/h
Fuel tank: 95 liters
Maximum autonomy: 563Km
Mechanical winch that has output to the front and rear of the car (the winch is hidden, and proceed to the transfer box)
Rear differential lock (sets the 4 rear wheels to pull simultaneously at 100%)
Engine tightness and fuel tank for vehicle submersion up to approx. 1.5m.
Very high attack and exit angles for a truck of this size.
Models
Berliet Tramagal GBH
Berliet Tramagal GBC-8KT
Berliet Tramagal GBA
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Berliet Tramagal, Museu Militar de Elvas.
History
Berliet Gazelle was the French answer to the GMC trucks, Morris, Austin, and others, which dating back to World War II still equipped most of the European armed forces in the 1950s/60s.
At a time when many of these countries were involved in conflicts in their colonies (France in the Algerian War, Belgium in the Congo, and Portugal in the midst of Colonial War), the need for a heavy, multipurpose, and all-terrain transport vehicle it was big.
Berliet technicians have designed a vehicle that is relatively simple to produce, robust and easy to maintain, capable of operating reliably in the most extreme terrains and climates.
In 1962, Metalúrgica Duarte Ferreira established an agreement with Berliet to assemble, under license in Tramagal, seven commercial models of various ranges and load capacity: the GAK, the GBK, the GLC, the GCK, the TBK, the TCK and the TFK . Production begins in February 1964 and, in the autumn of that year, Berliet makes the first demonstration of a truck for the Army, taking its model GBC-8 4x4 KT to the Alcochete firing range. Soon after, an order for 450 GBC-8 KT 4x4 military trucks was placed, satisfied between June 1965 and February 1966. The Berliet Tramagal trucks, as they are known, are now used in the three fronts of the Colonial War: in Angola, Mozambique and in Guinea-Bissau. In 1968, Berliet and Metalúrgica Duarte Ferreira began to develop a simpler truck, specially adapted to the needs of the Army. The car is slightly shorter and has a streamlined, straighter front of the car, with side openings in the engine compartment to facilitate ventilation and prevent overheating in difficult African conditions. The engine is now a diesel M420/30X with 135 horsepower.
In a period of ten years, between 1964 and 1974, the Tramagal assembly line delivered a total of 3,549 Berliet-Tramagal heavy tactical vehicles to the Portuguese Armed Forces, divided into three models: 1,670 GBC trucks of the 4x4 version and another 972 of the 6x6 version and 907 6x6 GBA copies. In 1976, 134 vehicles were sold to Angola and, three years later, another 120.
Technical Characteristics
Berliet Tramagal GBC 8KT CLD
Maximum length: 7.28M - Width: 2.4M - Height: 2.7M
Empty weight: 8000Kg. - 5000Kg load capacity.
Traction system: Six drive wheels
Engine: Magik MK520 multi-fuel 5cyl 7900cc Power: 125 hp
Maximum speed: : 80 km/h
Speed on uneven terrain: 35 km/h
Fuel tank: 95 liters
Maximum autonomy: 563Km
Mechanical winch that has output to the front and rear of the car (the winch is hidden, and proceed to the transfer box)
Rear differential lock (sets the 4 rear wheels to pull simultaneously at 100%)
Engine tightness and fuel tank for vehicle submersion up to approx. 1.5m.
Very high attack and exit angles for a truck of this size.
Models
Berliet Tramagal GBH
Berliet Tramagal GBC-8KT
Berliet Tramagal GBA
If it is reliable and easy to maintain, it sounds like a good army truck. But the fuel tank seems small.
For a touch under 500 C.I. a 100 liter tank is pretty small...I would agree.
583 maximum kliks on a fillup for such a heavy, low geared vehicle isn't that bad.
IMHO it would cover 95% of the useage.
Carrying extra fuel is an option as well.
I like that it's multi fuel capable. Not sure which fuels it can utilize??? Deisel/JP8/Kerosene and similar??
During WWII there were vehicles developed that could utilize Deisel/Gasoline and just about anything flammable that would pour into the tanks and didn't have a high viscosity rating.
If they wanted to name an anti-submarine aircraft flying out of a base in Scotland after a Canadian VC recipient, how could they have missed David Hornell?
https:// www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/4033703
https:// www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/4033703
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I would suspect that they carried at least 1 more likely 2 - 20 liter jerrycans as part of the Veh EIS
