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The name..Why can a 22lr not count as a pcc if nobody ever specified 9mm?
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The name..Why can a 22lr not count as a pcc if nobody ever specified 9mm?
That thing is awesome!! Wow
That thing is awesome!! Wow


Thanks for the detailed comparison. You’ve got a great collection and taste! Hope you have a prosperous new year!The Flux Raider Chassis is a very competently and ergonomically-designed enhancement that makes for a very handy and packable Personal Defence Weapon. That said, there are a few downsides or limitations inherent to the design.
First and foremost is the fact that the Raider is SIG P320-based, which comes with the potential for unexplained and unintentional discharge, although I have never had an issue with any of my 3x P320/M17 pistols. The fact that the Raider adds an ambidextrous manual Safety lever to the P320s operation helps to mitigate the discharge issue by applying positive mechanical prevention of trigger manipulation.
Second is the issue of range. With a 4.5" barrel, the Raider is realistically a 100m gun. And that is a stretch for a handgun enhanced by a 3rd point of contact. My comfortable engagement range is 75m with the Raider, whereas my SMG-based 9mm PCCs with 8" to 10" barrels such as the SIG MPX or B+T APC9 more easily reach out to 100(+)m.
Pros and cons, just like anything else.... Given the option, I'd take a dedicated 9mm PCC with an 8" to 10" Barrel any day over the Raider. Even more capable and thus better however, is (in my opinion) an 11.5" short-barrelled 5.56mm AR15 carbine. A compact AR isn't much bigger than an MP5, and any size difference is more than offset by the capability increase in terms of effective range, stopping power and overpenetration prevention.
Just my $.02....
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Then get into these..The Flux Raider Chassis is a very competently and ergonomically-designed enhancement that makes for a very handy and packable Personal Defence Weapon. That said, there are a few downsides or limitations inherent to the design.
First and foremost is the fact that the Raider is SIG P320-based, which comes with the potential for unexplained and unintentional discharge, although I have never had an issue with any of my 3x P320/M17 pistols. The fact that the Raider adds an ambidextrous manual Safety lever to the P320s operation helps to mitigate the discharge issue by applying positive mechanical prevention of trigger manipulation.
Second is the issue of range. With a 4.5" barrel, the Raider is realistically a 100m gun. And that is a stretch for a handgun enhanced by a 3rd point of contact. My comfortable engagement range is 75m with the Raider, whereas my SMG-based 9mm PCCs with 8" to 10" barrels such as the SIG MPX or B+T APC9 more easily reach out to 100(+)m.
Pros and cons, just like anything else.... Given the option, I'd take a dedicated 9mm PCC with an 8" to 10" Barrel any day over the Raider. Even more capable and thus better however, is (in my opinion) an 11.5" short-barrelled 5.56mm AR15 carbine. A compact AR isn't much bigger than an MP5, and any size difference is more than offset by the capability increase in terms of effective range, stopping power and overpenetration prevention.
Just my $.02....
Relative Sizes:
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there is also a Marlin trapper in 10mm autoAre there any pistol caliber carabines still legal in Canada?
there is a marlin trapper in 10mmWhich Henry lever can shoot 9mm?
That might be what they used to think before everything got libtarded. Now we have what we have.




























