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If tariffs are a bad response to a hostile nation starting a trade war, what do y'all propose as the solution?

Become the 51st state. Or at least let a foreign leader dictate our economic policy (as long as its not Schwab)

The rest of the time its super patriotic, foreign interference is awful, other countries telling us what to do is the worst thing ever
 
My cousin also died from fentanyl. She was 17 or 18 at the time. My aunt will never be the same. I never said there wasn't a fentanyl problem in either country, I'm saying the Canadian border isn't a significant factor.

Blaming Canada for fentanyl entering USA is on the same level as blaming licensed gun owners in Canada for gun deaths, despite the vast majority of guns being sourced from the USA. It's amazing how people like you can see how bull#### it is to blame gun owners for gun violence when the left says it, but when Trump does the exact same thing with fentanyl and the border you just accept it as a truthful reflection of reality.
Sorry for your family loss Suther, it's remarkable how deep the opioid crisis runs and how long it's been a problem that seems to be ignored or accepted. If that many people were being shot with guns imagine what the gun conversation would be!

My point that you seem to acknowledge yet miss is that Canada does have a border problem when it comes to controlling flow of fentanyl or the compounds needed to make it from entering into our Country. If the Cartel's want to set up superlabs and export some of it South as well, well that's on top of the problem we have had for over a decade..... why can't we do more to stop the flow from China or where ever it's coming from?

I heard a recent number that was around $80 billion dollars has been spent on housing refugees, providing them with phones, food money, pocket money etc in recent years since Roxham road became a port of entry complete with processing station and baggage handling by the RCMP.

Blaming the Orange Man for our home made problems is a cop out in my opinion, but clearly many would rather blame an external factor then look within.

And in case you think i'm a "Trump can do no wrong" type Maga uber alles.... I'm not convinced everything he is doing is going to work out well but I also don't have the inside knowledge of all the variables. At some points when it comes to US politics there is a pretty clear difference between the parties, though it's also pretty clear that many on team blue will think that the Steele Dossier and everything that was done illegally to go after a sitting president is just a fox news talking point.

We seem to be in a post truth reality, which I told you a year or two ago and I seem to recall you accusing me weaseling out of a disagreement at the time..... not sure if you see it yet, but it's not good for any side in my opinion.

At the end of the day I'm on the side of all of us as regular people, but were so fractured and confused that we don't stand much of a chance of putting up an opposition to what ever is coming down the Palantir pipe.

I think when it comes to some of the stuff Trump is doing in that regard he could be getting played by "advisers" who are telling him that if he doesn't get on board the Chinese will eat his lunch.... but I'm a long way from being in the room.
 
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Become the 51st state. Or at least let a foreign leader dictate our economic policy (as long as its not Schwab)

The rest of the time its super patriotic, foreign interference is awful, other countries telling us what to do is the worst thing ever
How about other provinces voting for Federal Govts that then tell provinces what they can and can't do with their resources?

The way things are going maybe Alberta and Saskatchewan will vote to join if a good deal is put on the table..... say $100,000 for each resident.
That would be a pretty cheap land purchase, specially if you can pull the "cash" out of thin air.

Trump and the Americans have more clout then we do in a trade war... pretending otherwise specially given how unprepared we are for rough seas is delusional..... Carney talking about bringing Canada closer to Europe and giving up on the Americans might make sense if not for the basic geographical realities and the fact that Europe is not doing well and can barely keep it self a float let alone pick up our socks.

We don't have to cave, but we should take what ever deal we can and then get down to the hard work of becoming competitive and using our resources and talents wisely.... maybe after 10 years of hard work we can renegotiate from a position of true strength and sovereignty.

Right now Canada is not a true sovereign state as we can't defend our own borders and at the end of the day our politicians for the most part proudly start every meeting by declaring that the land belongs to someone else.....
 
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Sorry for your family loss Suther, it's remarkable how deep the opioid crisis runs and how long it's been a problem that seems to be ignored or accepted. If that many people were being shot with guns imagine what the gun conversation would be!

My point that you seem to acknowledge yet miss is that Canada does have a border problem when it comes to controlling flow of fentanyl or the compounds needed to make it from entering into our Country. If the Cartel's want to set up superlabs and export some of it South as well, well that's on top of the problem we have had for over a decade..... why can't we do more to stop the flow from China or where ever it's coming from?

I heard a recent number that was around $80 billion dollars has been spent on housing refugees, providing them with phones, food money, pocket money etc in recent years since Roxham road became a port of entry complete with processing station and baggage handling by the RCMP.

Blaming the Orange Man for our home made problems is a cop out in my opinion, but clearly many would rather blame an external factor then look within.
If Orange Man gets to blame us for Fentanyl, then we get to blame him for those refugees coming from his country right?

80B? I'd love to see that source. My Google results are suggesting something closer to $1B between 2017 and 2024, and that's not JUST for Roxham Rd people - the majority of that money went to Ontario while Roxham Rd is in Quebec.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/housing-illegal-migrants-cost-canada-1-1-billion-since-2017
 
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I've been seeing more then a few "why is ammo prices going down" videos out of the US for the last few months.
Reportedly, demand is way down and supply is high.
Considering how .22 LR ammo, to name but one calibre, was being fanatically hoarded ever since Obama became prez, I'm surprised houses aren't collapsing down there.
 
Considering how .22 LR ammo, to name but one calibre, was being fanatically hoarded ever since Obama became prez, I'm surprised houses aren't collapsing down there.
Not really since Obama. There was a big drop during Trump, do you forget the cheap s&w ar15s? Those guns only existed because s&w was expecting a buying spree that never materialized because Hilary didn't win...
 
If Orange Man gets to blame us for Fentanyl, then we get to blame him for those refugees coming from his country right?

80B? I'd love to see that source. My Google results are suggesting something closer to $1B between 2017 and 2024, and that's not JUST for Roxham Rd people - the majority of that money went to Ontario while Roxham Rd is in Quebec.

https://torontosun.com/news/national/housing-illegal-migrants-cost-canada-1-1-billion-since-2017
Don't get hung up on that number. Suther... it seemed ridiculously high to me and I might be mis-remembring it...... but the fact is people that were crossing at Roxham were going straight to hotels and given a free ride with medical, dental, cell phones etc.

I think what you point out about Ontario getting more money then Quebec is part of the outrage that Quebec was expressing at the time.... the govt somehow could not shut down Roxham for years, but then they shut down the entire border in a single day!

While I realize a Billion dollars seems like peanuts these days.....How much extra money do you think we have? Do you think First Nations and the drugged out homeless people need support or should they just suck it up and pick themselves up by the boot straps?

It was and is a known thing that's why they are coming. Only recently are politicians on the left starting to admit that we might have a problem with bringing in close to a million a year with a shortage of houses and doctors.
The open border policies has nothing to do with Trump, other then it's part of why he was elected and then re-elected.

it's the same in many European countries with only the ex eastern block countries having the common sense not to go down that road.... mostly because they realize they can't afford it both culturally and economically. Canada has chosen a different road, remember when Trudeau invited all the economic regugees to come North during the first Orange Regime?

Not sure why you can't see the problem and who has been driving it?
 
That cabelas? Looks like it. They've gone nuts with their ammo prices
If that is Cabelas, they should be ashamed of themselves. :oops:

D1ck Cabela would roll over in his grave!....:(

Ever since the Bass Pro take-over, ammunition prices and virtually all their prices have skyrocketed. Their prices are as bad as Walmart Canada.

Plain and simple pure GREED!:oops:
 
While I realize a Billion dollars seems like peanuts these days.....How much extra money do you think we have?
Well you seem to think we have unlimited money to spend on appeasing Trump, yet we can't afford to house people in need... maybe the issue isn't money, but rather priorities?...
 
Well you seem to think we have unlimited money to spend on appeasing Trump, yet we can't afford to house people in need... maybe the issue isn't money, but rather priorities?...
Exactly priorities. Lets feed and house Canadians and stop the toxic drug supply... that's killing Canadians.

Finally some common ground!

:)
 
Exactly priorities. Lets feed and house Canadians and stop the toxic drug supply... that's killing Canadians.

Finally some common ground!

:)

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But you don't want to feed and house Canadians. That's just a ruse to cut funding for refugees. (Maybe you personally DO want to, but The CPC and their base as a whole sure as #### has no interest in it.)

And why shouldn't refugees get the same treatment? We're all people. Why is it okay to treat people differently based on where they were born?
 
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But you don't want to feed and house Canadians. That's just a ruse to cut funding for refugees. (Maybe you personally DO want to, but The CPC and their base as a whole sure as #### has no interest in it.)

And why shouldn't refugees get the same treatment? We're all people. Why is it okay to treat people differently based on where they were born?
Just imagine being so far left that you still don't have any issues with taking in a million east indians a year. Even reddit caught up by now, which is very telling.
 
That cabelas? Looks like it. They've gone nuts with their ammo prices

If that is Cabelas, they should be ashamed of themselves. :oops:

D1ck Cabela would roll over in his grave!....:(

Ever since the Bass Pro take-over, ammunition prices and virtually all their prices have skyrocketed. Their prices are as bad as Walmart Canada.

Plain and simple pure GREED!:oops:

That's it. Bass Pro is not at all interested in supporting our Canadian community. They want to sell fishing stuff and cheap shyte clothing.
 
Just imagine being so far left that you still don't have any issues with taking in a million east indians a year. Even reddit caught up by now, which is very telling.
Most of those people aren't refugees. Imagine being so far right you can't distinguish immigrant from refugee.

I'll gladly say 1 million immigrants a year is too much. That has no impact on my feelings about refugees though.
 
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But you don't want to feed and house Canadians. That's just a ruse to cut funding for refugees. (Maybe you personally DO want to, but The CPC and their base as a whole sure as #### has no interest in it.)

And why shouldn't refugees get the same treatment? We're all people. Why is it okay to treat people differently based on where they were born?
Thanks Suther.

You have eloquently demonstrated my points on both the necessity, and the difficulty of Co-Operation.
 
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