Questions about Range Burlington

I don't understand your problem?

I have been shooting there 6 months since I joined. Every time I showed up I had a port hell there were times that the club was completely empty.

Simple if you don't like it don't join. Find another club. I like BRRC.

You're right, the club is perfect and there is no need for improvement. Pardon my ignorance.
 
Good job on ignoring every counter point and just arguing for the sake of hearing your key board click.Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

And since you are offering tutoring try reading the post and quoting the proper person before you call them out.

??? Look again.
What counter point are you referring to?
 
You are quoting and attempting to insult me instead of dealing with the issue but inserted euxx's name.

And I was referring to my points and to two LONG responses from skeet that should have given you some resolution. It is obvious you just want to ##### not matter what.

Example:


Quote:
Originally Posted by euxx
I would guess the "two friends" spoken of do not exist. If they had why would you have joined? and I am sure they would have complained.
 
I dunno last time all 1400 members arrived to shot at the same time was.....:rolleyes:

Exactly my point. 1300 members cannot shoot during prime time hours unless they want to shoot a discipline. I'm not saying not to have nights set aside for them, just not every single weeknight of the year. Unless of course your goal is to have 1300 members pay for a club that only 100 will use during prime time, in that case well done.


Actually, based on attendence and card-swipes, its a lot more than 95/5. Much closer to 60/40 and edging up.


Why not just read some of the replies or AT LEAST the one from a member of the BOD before you go shooting off trying to get the next quick remark in.
 
Nice, now your calling me a liar, good job Corky. They're first names are Kiran and David, I'll gladly send you a PM with their full name as soon as you apologize publicly.


I will apologize to you if this is indeed true. I just find it hard to believe that your two friend were unable to complete it in time and just threw up there hands with out a fight to get there money back or at least an extension. I know I would, that's a lot on money to just let go.

And if you knew about the 'horrors' of Burlington, why did you join?

There have been cases in the past where people after sitting through the course until lunch said " no thanks Not for me good bye" and were refunded there money. Hell I was told that story by John (safety Director, the guy who runs the course) at the Course, as an option. So even if you were not informed before hand how come you did not ask to leave once you did find out?


So you know I do think the way things are done in Ontario as a whole sucks, I am not some Fudd that wants to exclude anyone. I would love to have and Alberta-esk club out here, but that is not going to happen anytime soon.
 
You are quoting and attempting to insult me instead of dealing with the issue but inserted euxx's name.

And I was referring to my points and to two LONG responses from skeet that should have given you some resolution. It is obvious you just want to ##### not matter what.

Example:


Quote:
Originally Posted by euxx
I would guess the "two friends" spoken of do not exist. If they had why would you have joined? and I am sure they would have complained.

Honestly Dave, I have no intention of insulting you. If you took it as such, I promise you you've misunderstood my point. I was answering euxx's post, not yours, look back and you'll see his post.
 
You may have been replying to him, but all your quotes are quoting my response, with his name on it.


Unless my computer/forum is messing me up.

Very strange, The first time I looked it did show me quoting you, I was quoting you lower in the post from a rule you had sent regarding rifle night, but all other quotes are from euxx.

Listen, I know we may all have different opinion on this, but at the end of the day we all belong to BRRC and enjoy shooting there whenever we can. Just not any weeknight ;) And I'm quite sure we all think there is room for improvement. It is frustrating due to the current regime. Perhaps one night after shooting we can all go out for a beer and talk about our Utopian range with 50 ports so everyone can shoot anytime in any discipline, I'll buy the 1st round.

Okay, Now I really need to get back to work.
 
Clubs

Different clubs have different flavors , if you dont like the taste - dont partake ! Find a club that offers what you like.

BRRC has organized disciplines that use the club on their night -GREAT!
Many clubs have nothing organized -BORING!

As long as a club has an open slot for those that are not part of a discipline,everyone is looked after.

Having said that-I left BRRC many years ago because it was to busy,to booked with the specialized nights and I went somewhere that was more open to meet my needs.

But thanx BRRC for the specialized nights because I still shoot the best IPSC practise matches there on Tues. nights :)

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Work? whats that? (don't tell the boss)

I do feel sorry for people that have constraints that don't let them finish there observations. Must really suck not being able to get out an shoot. I know I was the same way when I joined, I wanted that ATT fast, then I wanted a black badge fast, now I want more toys its a dangerous cycle.

Luckely I was able to move stuff around for a week and got them done quick.
 
I thank all of your for the ongoing comments and discussion about the different clubs in the area. While Burlington was my first tentative choice, it is not what I am looking for at this present time. While they might have the best facilities in terms of the different shooting disciplines, I have learned from you that the focus of this club are the leagues, which run on a nightly basis. Right now, I’m new to the sport and just want to have access to shoot what I want, when I want and obviously evening times is usually when I am free, since currently I work during the day (although I might be working shift work in the near future). Open access is important to me. I live in Toronto and if I have to drive out to a nearby city, having a club with all kinds of scheduled hours is just another barrier to access. In general I have not had much interest in sports leagues. I enjoy playing sports for example, but do so in the park with friends, not in an organized structured environment such as with a league. This is just my personal preference. I might consider Burlington in the future.
 
I am also looking for a club with a relaxed atmosphere. The scenario which a member mentioned above about being threatened to be kicked out if he stepped over the line again... is the kind of attitude that would turn me off from a club, let alone any other person or place. I give the club the benefit of the doubt, that this incident was an exception and not the norm, and having only heard one side of the story. Without taking anything away from the issue of safety, there are always two ways to communicate, either with respect or with rudeness. Just because a person taking a safety course steps over the line, does not give a person permission to be rude and threatening. If anything, a person is more likely to respond appropriately if he is treated respectfully. The director could just have easily come up to the individual and told him that he stepped over the line and that this was not allowed, or violates one of the safety rules, or to be careful that it does not happen again, however he chose to threaten the individual with being thrown out. He chose to be rude instead of respectful. This is all the more significant considering that this is a club, where members pay to come and enjoy their hobby and sport, this is the wrong attitude to have.
 
Its amazing how many people are fine with the 'hoops', I however, will never join a club when I know in advance that there is a problem.

6 supervised visits is absolute bulls**t, not even gonna try and sugar coat it, its nothing short of ridiculous. Getting approvals and sign offs from current members is bulls**t too. I'm not the quiet, solitude only range guy, I like getting to know people, but getting approval is retarded.

Range/club politics is getting even worse than those of the CFO these days, no excuse for it, just stops new shooters. I would love to do a side by side comparison with clubs in the west, or in the east. I would die to be a member at some of those.

Its a shame that the 'no non-sense, down to earth good' shooting clubs are becoming a dying breed.
 
This isn't rocket science, it's not even Grade 4 math. Is that why you're having problems with it? If you sit still and take your Ritalin I will explain it in terms maybe even you can understand... If a shooting club has 1400 members, but there are only 12 (or is it 10?) ports to shoot from, how many people can't shoot.

Dear mr. 43 years old president and ceo with degree in phycology and sociology, would you please stop putting my name on someone else's quotes.

As for the rocket science, apparently you didn't do your home work again. If you were at the observation nights you probably have seen that each discipline shoot more then one relay. Bulls eye shoot 2 or 3 (and they also shoot matches sanctioned by CSSA about half of the time); rifle - 2 relays again and there is up to 24 people shoot on 2nd relay; ipsc and ppc don't shoot from ports at all; silhouette may not have many shooters but they finish really early; black powder folks shoot slow and I bet you won't want them to shoot at the same time with you, so be thankful that they have some dedicated time. I am not familiar with your match grades, but your calculations simply based on wrong assumptions.

We all already know that you want to shoot at the time convenient to you, however BRRC have somewhat different goal, such as supporting various shooting sports. If you don't like it, then perhaps this club is not for you.
 
Dear mr. 43 years old president and ceo with degree in phycology and sociology, would you please stop putting my name on someone else's quotes.

As for the rocket science, apparently you didn't do your home work again. If you were at the observation nights you probably have seen that each discipline shoot more then one relay. Bulls eye shoot 2 or 3 (and they also shoot matches sanctioned by CSSA about half of the time); rifle - 2 relays again and there is up to 24 people shoot on 2nd relay; ipsc and ppc don't shoot from ports at all; silhouette may not have many shooters but they finish really early; black powder folks shoot slow and I bet you won't want them to shoot at the same time with you, so be thankful that they have some dedicated time. I am not familiar with your match grades, but your calculations simply based on wrong assumptions.

We all already know that you want to shoot at the time convenient to you, however BRRC have somewhat different goal, such as supporting various shooting sports. If you don't like it, then perhaps this club is not for you.

What are you praddling on about now Corky? You are correct, IPSC and PPC don't shoot from ports, however I'm quite sure they might have issues from someone using the ports when they are down range. Everything else you've put on here is a waste of the little brainpower you have. Every time you post a message you just make it worse for yourself. Now go drink your juicebox and don't forget to wear your bib.
 
Here you go. You can shot with the IPCS section and you can shoot your AR at rifle night.

You can actually shoot the center-fire only targets, but for a difference in the annual fee between BRRC and Target Sports (which you said you are ready to pay) you can get yourself a decent .22 rifle

So which one is it Corky? Make up your mind. If you do your homework ( I know, back to the English comprehension thing again, sorry I know that's an issue with you) you will see in the rules that you cannot shoot centre fire only. You can shoot either both or rim fire only, but not centre fire only. However you have done a great job on scaring away more people from the sport. Please do us all a favour and just stop.
 
So which one is it Corky? Make up your mind. If you do your homework ( I know, back to the English comprehension thing again, sorry I know that's an issue with you) you will see in the rules that you cannot shoot centre fire only. You can shoot either both or rim fire only, but not centre fire only. However you have done a great job on scaring away more people from the sport. Please do us all a favour and just stop.

My name is not Corky and it is a bad idea to insult people whose native language in not English. Didn't they thought you that in your sociology and pshycology classes? You can understand me all right if you'd be willing to use some part of your brain mr. president, but it seem like at your age it is a real issue.

I am speaking from the experience and we are not in court of justice to take things literally to the letter. As it been said in one of previous comments here, you can shoot the center-fire targets with your AR (25 rounds out of 75), but after your last comments I am really happy that you won't be coming there. You are not welcome.

Take care.
 
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