After thorough investigation I think that the barrel is not centered on bolt face. Remove the trigger group , with the rifle upside down on the bench place a dummy round on the bolt face and slowly chamber it. You will notice that the round slides up (which is down in the normal shooting position) when it enters the chamber. It means that in the normal shoooting position only the tiny bottom part of the firing pin is reaching the rim of the cartridge.
R22 Problems? Anyone else suffering?
- Thread starter Felix_the_Cat
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Kasat, It sounds like the last lot of bolts Rhineland bought had a bunch out of spec. He's going to be machining his own bolts from now on, and slightly changing the design to eliminate the weakness in the Ruger with firing pin lift.
In the Ruger 10/22 I grind off the rear bottom corner of the firing pin so that the hammer strike on the top corner causes the pin to "squat" down in the firing pin groove and it doesn't lift.
I felt this was a cheaper mod than drilling and pinning the bolt . The firing pin groove stays a lot cleaner from crud as well.
Jim
I felt this was a cheaper mod than drilling and pinning the bolt . The firing pin groove stays a lot cleaner from crud as well.
Jim
Yes , I know that , I just wanted to find out what really is wrong with the R22 action. I eliminated the lift on my firing pin by cold hammering the front part of the firing pin making it fit tighter under the front lift limiting cross- pin but this didn't help either. Let's hope the new bolts will arrive soon !!!!!!
While I am waiting for the new R22 collapsible from Rhineland, and not able to source out an original G3 or MP5 stock, I decided to try to solve the hollow cheap stock problem.
I went and bought 24 ounces of epoxy and slowly built up levels of this in the stock and now it is solid and strong.
I would say that this is a much better solution than filling the stock with aersol foam.
Kind of pricey at $38.00, but the final result is worth it, the stock is very solid and strong now, as well as making the R22 much more balanced with the heavy bull barrel.
I went and bought 24 ounces of epoxy and slowly built up levels of this in the stock and now it is solid and strong.
I would say that this is a much better solution than filling the stock with aersol foam.
Kind of pricey at $38.00, but the final result is worth it, the stock is very solid and strong now, as well as making the R22 much more balanced with the heavy bull barrel.
- Location
- Calgary,AB
T2003 said:
Can you tell me more? Brand? Where you got it?
Thanks
Felix_the_Cat said:
Sure, I bought it in Richmond B.C. at a place called Industrial Plastics. The brand name is Industrial Formulators Cold Cure, you will need the 500ml part A and 250ml part B.
Mix the two together to create the epoxy for each application and slowly pour it in the stock, (I used a plunger, sort of like a hypodermic to do this that I bought at the same store) layer up inside the stock as each level cures, this should take about 5 or 6 steps to build it up until it is full.
I am quite pleased with the results.
Good luck, this seems to be a pretty satisfactory solution until the new stock shows up.
- Location
- Calgary,AB
Any new updates? I am still waiting on the new bolt.
Here is the problem with R22:
Cartridge position when chambered (WAY TOO LOW) on my R22.
That's how it SHOULD be positioned when chambered ( but it can not due to a barrel/bolt misalignment).
This is what I did to make it easier for the bolt to move backwards and #### the hammer.
Please note that the extractor was modified to properly extract with the cartridge sitting lower on the bolt face. The bolt face was also trimmed to achieve a proper headspace.
I am getting now maybe one failure to extract per 25 rnd steel lips mag. Not bad comparing
to what I went through before.
Cartridge position when chambered (WAY TOO LOW) on my R22.
That's how it SHOULD be positioned when chambered ( but it can not due to a barrel/bolt misalignment).
This is what I did to make it easier for the bolt to move backwards and #### the hammer.
Please note that the extractor was modified to properly extract with the cartridge sitting lower on the bolt face. The bolt face was also trimmed to achieve a proper headspace.
I am getting now maybe one failure to extract per 25 rnd steel lips mag. Not bad comparing
to what I went through before.
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- Location
- Calgary,AB
ooo, thanks for the update Kasat, I am sure that is probally why I am having the same problems.
I honestly wonder why we have had so many problems, and some other owners have not had a single hiccup.
Are you on the waiting list for one of the new bolts yourself, or are you satisfied with your modified one?
I honestly wonder why we have had so many problems, and some other owners have not had a single hiccup.
Are you on the waiting list for one of the new bolts yourself, or are you satisfied with your modified one?
- Location
- Calgary,AB
Jim Bell said:
I am still not a happy camper.
IF the problem can be fixed, meaning that I get the new bolt HOPEFULLY by the end of the month (yes, I am going to be generous with the time) and the thing works REALLY good, I dont mean half assed, I mean I want some performance outta it. Then I will fully retract all of my previous statements.
'Cause right now, my R22 is making a fine doorstop, and not much else.
- Location
- Hudson Quebec Canada
That is exactly why I am only buying Russian. Thank GOD for Armrus and Baikal. I have not had any problems using there selection of Firearms
Should I add that Armrus.com is running the best special in town
Should I add that Armrus.com is running the best special in town
I for one would like to know what kind of QA/QC was used. While this is one nice little rifle, if it doesn't feed or eject reliably, what use is it.
Unlike some of you mine fired everytime there was a round in the chamber, problem was the round getting in or leaving the chamber.
I am waiting for the parts that will supposedly fix this problem and if it does this will be a sweet little rifle. If not, I would like to send this back and wait for the 3rd generation, you know the one without the FTF/FTE problems.
I would like to see a poll on how many of us actually have a 100% working rifle, seems to me that would be very low.
Unlike some of you mine fired everytime there was a round in the chamber, problem was the round getting in or leaving the chamber.
I am waiting for the parts that will supposedly fix this problem and if it does this will be a sweet little rifle. If not, I would like to send this back and wait for the 3rd generation, you know the one without the FTF/FTE problems.
I would like to see a poll on how many of us actually have a 100% working rifle, seems to me that would be very low.
Guys, I just got home from trying out a R22 and was dissapointed for sure.
We stopped for lunch and Imy buddy lay his R22 down against a snow bank.
Afterwards we had repeated ail to extract and of course fail to fire. The extractor froze in the bolt . Once we applied some heat from a lighter it worked again. I guess the fault was not the rifles but the oil we used on the bolt. Still all that metal handguard freezes up pretty quickly
Jim
We stopped for lunch and Imy buddy lay his R22 down against a snow bank.
Afterwards we had repeated ail to extract and of course fail to fire. The extractor froze in the bolt . Once we applied some heat from a lighter it worked again. I guess the fault was not the rifles but the oil we used on the bolt. Still all that metal handguard freezes up pretty quickly
Jim
