R22 Problems? Anyone else suffering?

Hello, sorry for the delay on email, been very busy. It is on its way.
Look for it on friday of this week. Also, I have not had time to visit the
Canuck web site, all other parts requested by the other Canadians have
been shipped as well, all but the new bolts.

Thanks
Thomas
Rhineland Arms


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Dave
 
More Problems

:( While cleaning, discovered that the mag well is cracked (right behind the ejector) seemingly, the striker travels to far and has caused a big crack in the mag well. So...to date....1)failed ejector 2) faulty bolt 3) cracked mag well and am now waiting for stock problems as per some of the rest of you guys. I took some photo's and emailed them to Rhineland. Tried to email TSE but didn't go thru, will try again. If anyone wants to know the location, just send me your email and I'll be happy to send photo's.

Anyone out there asked for their money back? I did, and Jr. @ TSE says not now being as Rhineland is making the effort to correct the problems. My issue is why am I the guinea pig, along with 40% of the other purchasers, discovering what will go wrong next with this firearm. After waiting 18 months, sending money to receive a quality product, the R22 is a major embarresment at the firing range. Looks good, but can't perform worth a ####.

A Major Disappointment! At this point, I wish to return the firearm for $ back. Anyone else out there feel the same? Let me know. If there are others out there who wish to get a refund, I think we need to get together and let TSE and Rhineland know, as a group, that waiting for potential improvements is not something we would like to do.:( :(
 
There is a weak spot on the back of the mag well. It serves no structural purpose, and can be filed out if you want.

I can understand your frustration. There are signifigant quality control issues that need to be addressed. Oddly, I'm not getting quite the same feedback on AR15.com.

If you're that frustrated, I'll buy your defective gun for .50$ on the dollar.
 
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The hammer should never hit the top of the magwell when the rifle is assembled properly. If it does then the bolt is too far forward in its closed position which can be corrected by moving the barrel backwards 1 full turn.
It may require romoving some material from the rear bottom of the bolt to make sure that the only part of the bolt being hit by the hammer is the firing pin and adjacent upper rear part of the bolt.
 
sat26 said:
the bolt in your r22 is a ruger one! they say their(ruger's) poor qc is part of the problem! several r22 owner is the US have sent their bolts out to be "accurized" and they say the makes all the difference in the world!
http://www.3me.us/
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Why would you or better yet you as a consumer pay to repair a product that is definitely defective in design/manufacture while under a warranty I have been following this thread it still amazes me that so many of you are willing to spend more of your own hard earned money on a product that is not 100%. I am having second thoughts about ever purchasing this rifle period. I hope this gets settled quickly :(
 
Savage said:
Why would you or better yet you as a consumer pay to repair a product that is definitely defective in design/manufacture while under a warranty I have been following this thread it still amazes me that so many of you are willing to spend more of your own hard earned money on a product that is not 100%. I am having second thoughts about ever purchasing this rifle period. I hope this gets settled quickly :(
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You are right of course. You bought a gun, and deserve to get what you paid for, namely a functioning rifle. I don't think there are too many people who will argue that this gun wasn't brought to market a bit too quickly, and without enough QA before they left the shop.

There are a hundred small shops pushing out some incredible gear. Unfortunately, as soon as one hits the market, three other competitors release copies. Look at Brobees 870 adapter.

In a perfect world, a few test and evaluation pieces would be sent out, then adjustments made to the preproduction models, then a final version leaves the shop. Today, they have to hit the ground running, and hope to get it right.

I think this gun will be popular, but right now there are a lot of rightly pissed off owners.

At least Thomas hasn't lost his cool, and has tried to respond.
I would be happier if he was able to service the current customers problems faster. It obviously adds to the complications being across a border.

I'm not giving up hope on the design, and I will be buying the MP-5 version if it hits the market.

And the offer is still open. Anyone so pissed off that they are ready to walk from the project, I'll buy your "defective" R22 for $.50 on the dollar.
 
Canuck223 said:
You are right of course. You bought a gun, and deserve to get what you paid for, namely a functioning rifle. I don't think there are too many people who will argue that this gun wasn't brought to market a bit too quickly, and without enough QA before they left the shop.

There are a hundred small shops pushing out some incredible gear. Unfortunately, as soon as one hits the market, three other competitors release copies. Look at Brobees 870 adapter.

In a perfect world, a few test and evaluation pieces would be sent out, then adjustments made to the preproduction models, then a final version leaves the shop. Today, they have to hit the ground running, and hope to get it right.

I think this gun will be popular, but right now there are a lot of rightly pissed off owners.

At least Thomas hasn't lost his cool, and has tried to respond.
I would be happier if he was able to service the current customers problems faster. It obviously adds to the complications being across a border.

I'm not giving up hope on the design, and I will be buying the MP-5 version if it hits the market.

And the offer is still open. Anyone so pissed off that they are ready to walk from the project, I'll buy your "defective" R22 for $.50 on the dollar.
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Think of it this way, all of you would buy a brand new rifle and think nothing of buying a bunch of goodies for it. If this works I'm set and if not I'll have one hell of a bolt for my new 10/22t. but I'd rather have me R22 working!

Besides R22-10/22 stuff is way cheaper than anything I can buy for any of my other black rifles!
 
If you're still having problems with the R22 contact TSE and have your name put on thier list. RA is sending them new bolts to be distributed to people (like me) who bought $600 paper wieghts
 
lt. dan said:
If you're still having problems with the R22 contact TSE and have your name put on thier list. RA is sending them new bolts to be distributed to people (like me) who bought $600 paper wieghts
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Good to hear, I am really surprised that no one over at the 'Edge mentioned this to me. I am there roughly twice a week, sometimes more. It was well known I was having problems with my rifle.

Well, at least I know now to ask them to put me on the list.
 
For those waiting for new bolts, here is the reply I just recieved from Thomas at RA...



Hello,

It is going to be around 2 more weeks before we ship them out.

Thanks
Thomas
Rhineland Arms
 
What's this about a new EJECTOR?
The ejector is part of the magazine. At least on the 10/22 it is and if the R22 uses Ruger type mags then the function is there as well.
Jim
 
As far as I understand a new bolt, firing pin, extractor and ejector are what needs to be replaced in the defective R22's and that is what thomas is shipping to TSE for distribution, but I could be wrong
 
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