RCMP Letter of Interest for a New Service Pistol
- Thread starter Phat Eagle
- Start date
Beauvais98
CGN Regular
- Location
- Greater Ottawa Area
The Smith and Wesson M&P9's ambi slide release is practically inoperable from the right side.
That depends on how you use it, besides, it'll wear in after 10K or so. Also, if it really bugs you, you can tweak it a bit so that it's easier - I haven't with mine, when I shoot left I just drop the slide with my right hand thumb on the reload.
A whole lot of speculation floating around here. The entire pistol competition thing has already gone through the hoops once already. A Walther pistol was submitted to treasury board who shot it down completely due to cost alone. Since then, there has been a lot of chatter and also a Union has gotten involved and the trials are now going again. It is the epitome of asinine. The Walther is still apparently the favourite, but this is now another chance for money to be exchanged under the tables, etc. If you read the requirements closely a couple of the current pistols will have to come to the table with some changes. It's the overall package that is getting bid on here which includes lights, optics, holsters, etc. - not just the pistols.
the RCMP already have Glocks in service, and have had no issues with them. The RFP doesn't say anything about not requiring a trigger press to disassemble, which means they wrote this to specifically include Glock. They could have easily excluded them by stating that requirement, but they didn't. That is very telling.
Actually no the Walther does not.
While most don't know this, with the slide locked open and the chamber empty, insert the rear of a handcuff key into the hole in the rear plate, easily slide the plate off and remove the striker assembly. All Police Officers have a handcuff key (s) as standard issue equipment. Then allow the slide to move forward under control. Weapon is now stripped into 6 parts not including the magazine. Current S&W 5946 is disassembled into 6 parts as well, with non-captive recoil spring. Both guns have the same number of parts when stripped.
Walther also recommends the easy removal of the striker assembly for wiping down, much easier than removing the Glock plate that is under pressure.
Rich
While most don't know this, with the slide locked open and the chamber empty, insert the rear of a handcuff key into the hole in the rear plate, easily slide the plate off and remove the striker assembly. All Police Officers have a handcuff key (s) as standard issue equipment. Then allow the slide to move forward under control. Weapon is now stripped into 6 parts not including the magazine. Current S&W 5946 is disassembled into 6 parts as well, with non-captive recoil spring. Both guns have the same number of parts when stripped.
Walther also recommends the easy removal of the striker assembly for wiping down, much easier than removing the Glock plate that is under pressure.
Rich
Delete
Last edited:
You can take a Glock apet the same way, using the Glock tool to take tension of the rear plate with the slide back, remove striker and then take slide off without pulling the trigger. No more difficult than removing the striker with the slide off the gun for cleaning.
Slavex,
Almost the same....but the PDP is much simpler and easy for those with minimal training, plus only the plate slides off and the striker cleanly.
With the Glock it's not complicated for you or I but can you imagine the masses....plus the extractor plunger and spring and suddenly it is a mess for the
common folk.
Rich
Almost the same....but the PDP is much simpler and easy for those with minimal training, plus only the plate slides off and the striker cleanly.
With the Glock it's not complicated for you or I but can you imagine the masses....plus the extractor plunger and spring and suddenly it is a mess for the
common folk.
Rich
Phat Eagle
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Fraser Valley, BC
Many agencies don't allow members to take their pistols down to clean their firearms.... They're done by maintenance officers.
I don't know if that's harder/more complicated/more annoying than pulling the firing pin out of a 5946 but we are expected to do that and I haven't really heard any horror stories about it.
That would be handy!
heh, the firing pin on the 5946, heh. I had a girl attend class a number of years ago, and her duty gun was constantly jamming up. I very strangely had my personal 5946 in my case (12.6 one) and lent it to her so she could finish class. At the end of the night we figured out that her firing pin was extending out the front of the breach face and catching on the next round as the slide went forward. Detail stripped the slide and discovered no firing pin spring. She'd just got the gun back from depot and blamed them, but we were pretty sure it was her fault. Find out from a coworker that she found the spring on the floor at home that night.
At this point the Government of Canada has conducted multiple pistol testings in as many years - CBSA (RCMP were quite involved in this evaluation as they were interested in the PX4 amongst other contenders). the military (rocking sigs 225/226 and now p320 in both 9mm and .40) and everybody else mostly rocking Glocks or sigs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_firearms_in_Canada why reinvent the wheel?
Specialist units may require different things, sure, but as a general application - standardise across the federal agencies.
Specialist units may require different things, sure, but as a general application - standardise across the federal agencies.
I pretty sure that it would have been her doing. The armorers at Depot are top notch guys and highly unlikely they would miss something like that.
