RDB now that the X95 is near impossible to find?

Unholysavage said:
With everything happening I'd avoid plinker-grade rifles and keep looking for an x95. Or other NRs known for reliability - Bren 2, APC, SL8 (w/additional $$ spent to recontour the barrel at minimum), an NR receiver set that takes AR parts etc.
My $0.05.
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55recce said:
Maybe wait until New Year? Some will want to sell to cover Christmas bills....
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I ended up finding a very lightly used X95 for a good price.
 
Horilka said:
A fanboy that recommended X95? A strange definition of being a fan boy.
Do X95 have rubber "spring" or not? Why do you think other manufacturers don't use rubber in such places? Were there or were there not reports of this part degrading?
I guess you never had to remove degraded X95 screws that are of course not of "hardware store" quality, yet ####ing degraded quickly.. I had and know other ppl who had. How many screws do you in AK, AR, Type 81? But for X95 it is still great design decision?
Jeez. Just don't want to waste time arguing anymore. Be well..
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My X95 had a rubber extractor spring that disintegrated, leaving me for a month with a paper weight.
The last available replacement that I could find in canada was 70$ shipped to my door for a green piece of rubber 1/4 the size of a pencil eraser.
Not impressed
 
punkrockboy said:
My X95 had a rubber extractor spring that disintegrated, leaving me for a month with a paper weight.
The last available replacement that I could find in canada was 70$ shipped to my door for a green piece of rubber 1/4 the size of a pencil eraser.
Not impressed
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I nearly forgot. A "fix" for weak extractor in the AR15 was a rubber donut.
 
Horilka said:
RBD is more advanced than X95. You're pointing mostly to the drawbacks I mentioned.
You're clearly choosing to ignore the screws in X95? Rubber extractor spring? Inability to do full cleaning of gas system in "military rifle"? Complexity of the BCG? RBD action and overall design is more advanced than X95, compare it to ACR-lineage and you will see (no, probably you won't). Not without stupid features but still it's more modern. Worse executed, of worse quality, but still more advanced in terms of design.

P.S. If you don't understand what I am saying, consider this. TARA TM-9 is of more advanced design than BHP. But because of implementation, quality and other factors - I would rather recommend outdated BHP.
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What screws in the X95?! The TWO in the top rail?! …the one that holds the handguard to the top rail and the one for the pistol grip…? Those are normal and do not need to be removed to field strip the gun and the top rail doesn’t ever need to be removed, even to remove the barrel.

How many screws on the RDB again?!

Rubber extractor “spring”…so does my AR10…how many extractor springs are breaking on the X95?

The gun is a piston gun…you don’t need to clean out the gas system short of cleaning the plastic gas cylinder (that is a full removable and replaceable for like $20) with the included brush with the cleaning kit…which the X95 comes with, a proper cleaning kit…not a ####ty printed certificate lmaooo

I could go on but it’s pointless.
 
punkrockboy said:
My X95 had a rubber extractor spring that disintegrated, leaving me for a month with a paper weight.
The last available replacement that I could find in canada was 70$ shipped to my door for a green piece of rubber 1/4 the size of a pencil eraser.
Not impressed
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I have 3 X95 rifles…have shot them a lot. My main one has seen 5,000+ rounds with very little cleaning and not an issue

Like I said in my earlier post, how many others have heard of this happening…as it’s not common

Also not a dig at YOU…but in general, it’s better to stock spare parts BEFORE you need them to avoid this issues…especially if it’s a “serious” gun you want to have if times go bad

Spare parts will ALWAYS hold their value too
 
B said:
^ there is enough laughably incorrect stuff in that to out you as a fanboy and nothing more. A rubber spring among other nonsense. The two X-95 and full compliment of parts minus receiver I have have springs and an o-ring. I know from experience it runs fine without the O-ring, I believe one of them doesn't even have it right from the factory. The screws are a thing, I guess? Four for the rail and two for the grip? WOW.

They aren't cheap fasteners from the frigging hardware store at least. The gas system, yes, you can clean it. The included kit has a brush to do so, not that it's special. The BCG is complex compared to what? You have an issue with the piston being attached I guess? The RDB is a toy compared to the X-95, which for all its faults can actually stand up as a military grade firearm. Kel-Tec couldn't get an army to field their crap if they gave it away for free.

Have you ever even held an X-95 before?
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Broke guys need to justify their garage build quality guns on the internet! JuSt aS gOoD!!!
 
Horilka said:
A fanboy that recommended X95? A strange definition of being a fan boy.
Do X95 have rubber "spring" or not? Why do you think other manufacturers don't use rubber in such places? Were there or were there not reports of this part degrading?
I guess you never had to remove degraded X95 screws that are of course not of "hardware store" quality, yet ####ing degraded quickly.. I had and know other ppl who had. How many screws do you in AK, AR, Type 81? But for X95 it is still great design decision?
Jeez. Just don't want to waste time arguing anymore. Be well..
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WHAT SCREWS ON THE X95 hurt you?!?!?! Which of the 4 touched you?!

Good god man…

And both the AK and AR use screws for the grip…same as the X95…AR handguards can have anywhere from 2-8 bolts holding them on

KEL TEC as a whole, but especially the RDB are MEME’d over their amount of screws…
 
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Rifle Master said:
Ohhh wow one of these types! another I'm better than you clown
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Which one? Hannibal has a valid point. RDB is very interesting design but it's not comparable to X95 for reliability. I would favour the RDB but I really don't like the amount screws to clamp a shell on the frame, certainly bothers me lol.
 
If I were you, I would wait for an X95 to show up on the EE before buying a Kel-Tec. I owned two, with owned being past tense.
 
DVX said:
If I were you, I would wait for an X95 to show up on the EE before buying a Kel-Tec. I owned two, with owned being past tense.
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So I did exactly that. ;)

However, after a rash of guns selling quickly, there are precious few listed right now and prices seem to be fairly high.
 
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