Real CGN-wildcat-thread-soon-to-be-forum

Probably the least expensive way to go would be to buy a used long action rifle with a standard bolt face (and if it has a 7mm barrel, so much the better). If it has the 7mm barrel, spin off the barrel, turn back the shoulder about .004"-.010" or so (there are clearance measurements involved, so don't guess), shorten the shank the same amount, turn the threads back to the new shoulder, ream the chamber, and put the barrel back on. If it doesn't have a 7mm barrel, you'll need to buy one, have it fitted, chambered, tapered, crowned and finished. then reblue the whole rifle. If the new barrel is a different profile then the old one, you'll have to refit the stock's fore end to the new barrel. That will be more expensive. I would expect to pay about $180 or so to rechamber an existing 7mm, the new barrel route will probably add $400-$500 to that (although there are less expensive barrels out there). If you go for a name barrel, it will probably be another $500 on top of that. HTH - Dan
 
So, almost like what David Henry told me he was going to do to blueprint my action, I guess. :?: I assume that you're talking about a 7mm Remington Magnum, right? or some other calibre :?: What about getting brass? hard to find (make/convert my own), or availible if the right rock is kicked over :?: where do you find/who makes dies for wildcats :?:

Kyle
 
KyleM,
NOT to TROLL dan, but don't let those prices scare you, shopping around will save you quite a bit if you don't desire the best of the best.

Rechambering is a good option for your first wildcat too, If you wanted say a .280 Ackley, go buy a Remington 700 in .280 Rem and take it to David Henry and let him, Blueprint it and rechamber/set back for alot less. But you cannot use a 7mm Rem mag you need a chamber smaller than the one you want to go to.

BTW good to see post's from a you fella's that don't post very often. :wink: We must have something of interest here for ya.
Lots of questions, but inquiring minds want to know!
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Not taken as a trolling Ultra. Yes, the existing rifle rechambered is the least expensive way to go, which is what I was trying to get across.

Kyle, when I said 7mm (as you mentioned wanting a 280 AI) I meant a rifle in 7X57, 7mm-08 and/or 280 Rem. The 7mm Mag bolt face will be to big (fixable, but a PITA), and the chamber is too large for just a simple set back and rechamber.

All the major die makers make dies for wildcats, but RCBS seems to have about the best selection. For a 280 AI, you could also use a 7mm neck sizing die (Lymen or others) for quite a while until you need the full length sizer. Slightly cheaper way to get your 'cat shooting.

For brass, just use regular Rem 280 brass, easy to find. If you get into the more esoteric wildcats, there are other things to consider about the cases, but starting with an Ai is a good way to get your feet wet. - Dan
 
Hey you guys rock!

Except now I have ANOTHER rifle to buy and scope, and tune up, and get a bipod for and.... :lol: :roll: Damn you all! :lol:

Kyle
 
bone-collector said:
its all about the toys Kyle :twisted: , welcome aboar the boat of adiction and there is NO AA meetings for this disease :lol:
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Sure there is , it's at the range every Sunday morning . We will be sacraficing as many rounds as the shoulder will allow. :twisted:
 
I understand the appeal and desire for wildcatting, but so far I haven't explored enough of the "standard" calibres to be fully prepared to know what I'd like or want in a wildcat.

Maybe I'll be heading towards the Whispers.... go for slower rather than faster, just to be different. :D

Speed isn't everything.
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Ultra
The 6.5-300 mag Is the 300win necked to 6.5 with no other changes.When I first started loading for it the temp was low. The loads seemed normal with good accuracy potential.The next time I tried it was mid summer.Let me put it this way Speed was unreal and a good time was had by all untill that little puff of smoke from the action and the primer fell out upon extraction. :oops:
By the time you come up for mule deer I will have the loads fixed and you can try it out.
Kevin
The only wildcat on the 7.62-54 that I know of is the finnish 9.3x54.
Al Pederson was a well known Sask barrel maker/gunsmith . He also made his own chamber reamers. If he didn't like a cartridge design He sometimes improved it slightly as in the case of Dustys 95.
Wildcat definition also includes obsolete ,In my case that gives me 3 more wilcats 303 Savage,35 Win,30Rem.
224Brat
The design is mine and Bevan Kings.I wanted a cartridge that would give me an honest 3500fps with a55gr bullet without pressure problems on a #4Enfield. It works. Specs: 1.820 length , .455 head dia, .448 shoulder ,
1.406 length to shoulder.case capacity is 44.4 gr of water.The 22-250 is
42 grains the swift is 46. On a strong action such as a P14 this could be a real screamer. For load data I just use 225 win data works good and keeps the pressure down.


Rich
 
Rapt said:
I understand the appeal and desire for wildcatting, but so far I haven't explored enough of the "standard" calibres to be fully prepared to know what I'd like or want in a wildcat.

Maybe I'll be heading towards the Whispers.... go for slower rather than faster, just to be different. :D

Speed isn't everything.
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your right there speed isnt everything and in fact it can be a harmfull situation when you blow 40 lbs of meat off a moose @ 75 yards .
But on the other hand speed is a blast no one likes a 18 second mustang do they :lol: , and in the long range shooting speed is a factor as well as stabalization of the bullets, why alot of guys turn to custom guns and wildcats looking for that happy middle ground ..after you find that its just as bad as drugs , you cant stop and find yourself with projects all over the dam place :wink: :lol:
 
But on the other hand speed is a blast no one likes a 18 second mustang do they
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I know, thats why I drive a bike... 11 second quarters anyone? :wink:

No seriously though I've been thinking about a medium cal. long range gun ... Like 6mm/.243... But there are more damn choices there than you can stick a shake at and all of them seem to have little difference in capacity or range unless you get into some heavy hitting widlcats. The idea is cheap to reload and light enough to be pleasant to shoot so those big cases with lots and lots of juice aren't what I'm after.
 
Rapt
The 6mm-223 is the 6mm-47 at least I think it is .If I'm wrong someone will correct me.
On my post explaining the Brat I forgot to mention the parent case :oops: It,s the 303 Brit of course.Which explains the name .The wayward child of a Brit is of course a Brat. :mrgreen:
How about a wildcat shotgunshell .
410 Special
I picked up an Ishapour 410 barrel , had it chambered to 3in and headspaced to my action. They screwed it up and gave it to much headspace,So I use 444 Marlin brass it headspaces perfectly.

Rich
 
I was just corrected on this on the AR forum. The 6X47 is based on the 222 Rem Mag case, the 6X45 is based on the 223 case, as is the 6 TCU. Now that Ruger is making the 204 (based on the 222 Rem mag case), the 6 X 47 may become a little more popular again, I know I still have the dies from mine and have been thinking of building a LW walk around rifle in this chambering. Very accurate, low recoil and noise, a good little cartridge. - Dan
 
6X47 used to be the King Bench Rest ( .222 fans will kick my ass for that one :twisted: ) untill The PPC came along.

Rapt, most any gunsmith will have a reamer for anyone of those mentioned cases. I think the ones on .223 will be more popular since brass for the .222 Mag is not on every street corner and only Remington makes it. .223 is available from Lapua. :wink:
 
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