Remington 770 disappointment.

[rem338win]

I bought a Yugo once. It ran for a while. I looked like an idiot driving it. People laughed and me. It broke down a bunch of times, and the steering wheel fell off while I was driving once. I was really dissappointed with it and the image it gave me.


Sound familiar? Pay garbage price, get garbage. I don't like any gun I can true up will a blender.

 

[TheTooner]

I guess I lucked out with my 710, It has 950 rounds through it. Has had exactly 5 jams (double feed from the magazine), never had an extraction problem, and shoots well. Besides being a terribly light rifle and therefore jumps lots when shooting it has served me well. That is not my justification on owning this rifle and spending $425 on it plus another $320 on a decent scope.
I actually bought it because people said it was a piece of crap, I figured I would give it a shot. The worse thing in my expierance was the original scope which has since been replaced, So far been happy. If you guys can't understand that, thats your situation to deal with. You can say what you want, from close in out to 400 yards this rifle will hit the kill zone of an animal and drop it it dead as well as any other with a competant shooter within their shooting ability.
I understand the issue with the rifle as a batch and I understand peoples bias towards it. But many that I have talked to who "own" one are happy with it overall. Not to say they are jumping with joy but the are happy.

To me to spend $1000 on a rifle I will use 3 or four times a year just isn't what I want to spend my money on, buying used is for the most part out of the question unless i know and trust the person selling the object.
Can a person get a bigger and better deal, sure, can you get a worse one sure.
I am happy with my rifle for the reason that it works for me and what I do. Thats it.

Maybe this summer I will go out and buy a 700 to give it a go as long as he G/F approves.

Cheers all.

I am glad for you that you are so well served by your 710. However, while your general argument has some merit it jams like a 710 when you suggest your alternative in purchasing new would cost $1000. You say you spent $425 to get your 710 and another $320 to replace the scope. Your alternatives in purchasing new are not only better rifles for markedly less than $1000, they are better rifles for less than you paid getting your 710 to its present state.

What we decry here is gun retailers and Remington taking advantage of a novice's ignorance and making their profits by persuading them to buy the 710 or 770. The people who built the model 700 know full well that their 710/770 isn't good design or good value. The people who make their living selling guns should know better, too.

 

[childs56]

Sorry guys I bow down to you all of you. Your right and I am wrong.
As for the scope I guess it can be used on another rifle when I get around to buying one when I throw out the 710.

Cheers

 

[TheTooner]

Keep your 710 and use it as long as it works. Just don't tell us you were smart to get it for $745 because otherwise you would have had to spend $1000 on something else. We all know there are better guns available for less than $745.

 

[itfliesitdies]

Truthfully, I own a remington 700 SPS in 300WSM, also own a Remington 770 in .243. My 700 is of course smoother and higher quality parts and craftsmanship, but anyone buying the 770 already knows this. The 770 is a fine guy for the money, it gets the job done. I also read MANY reviews and 99% of the negative rviews are by people WHO DO NOT own this rifle, they touched in the store but they obviously didnt buy one. Withe a little TLC the sticky bolt is easily fixed.

Get rib of the factory gunk, clean up the bolt with some steel wool and re lube with regualr gun oil. atlest 50% smoother. Im not fond of the stock itself, seems like the wholes around the safety are large, It is a cheap gun but for 400-500 you can ask for much more.

There is nothing wrong with the gun. there always the lemon factor when you buy a car or stereo or anything, you either get a good one or you get a bad one. but all in all the rifle itself is fine, shoots straight, easily sighted, only thing I plan on doing is switching out the scope that came with it.

Dont believe all the 770 haters, its a persoanl decision, its no 700 but its a fine firearm for a good price.

just my 2 cents, from an actual owner of a 770.

 

[chuck nelson]

Anything that jams five times in use is not functional, it does not work, and in this case probably can't be fixed. The next gun you buy is now going to cost an extra $440. Does anyone but me see the false economy in this?

 

[Hank Hunter]

they touched in the store but they obviously didnt buy one.

Get rib of the factory gunk, clean up the bolt with some steel wool and re lube with regualr gun oil. atlest 50% smoother. Im not fond of the stock itself, seems like the wholes around the safety are large, It is a cheap gun but for 400-500 you can ask for much more.

There is nothing wrong with the gun.

Sorry, the bolt needs work, the safety, the stock. You can get a whole lot more for your 4 or 5 hundred dollars. There is a reason the ones who touched it in the store [B]DIDN'T[/B] buy it

 

[manbearpig]

i swear people will try and justify something they spent money on no matter what.

it seems like the best thing that can be said for the 770 is that 'when i pull the trigger, a bullet usually comes out'.
i expect more for ~$500.

only thing I plan on doing is switching out the scope that came with it.

that makes it even worse. it means you spent ~$500 on just a disposable rifle, and there are dozens of better options for that.

Dont believe all the 770 haters, its a personal decision, its no 700 but its a fine firearm for a good price.

when i think 'fine firearm', the absolute last thing i imagine is the Remington 770. it is like the antichrist of fine firearms.

It is a cheap gun but for 400-500 you cant ask for much more.

YES YOU CAN - thats what people have been trying to tell you for over 100 posts now!

 

[stuckon308]

I guess I lucked out with my 710, It has 950 rounds through it. Has had exactly 5 jams (double feed from the magazine), never had an extraction problem, and shoots well.

My Savage has had over 1000 rounds through it and has never had a jam or extraction problems.

To me to spend $1000 on a rifle I will use 3 or four times a year just isn't what I want to spend my money on, buying used is for the most part out of the question unless i know and trust the person selling the object.

Since the 710 was introduced in 2001 that would give you about 25 shots per outing if you owned yours since the beginning. If I'm shooting an average of 25 shots everytime I'm out with a "precision" rifle I want to know that I won't have to worry about feeding issues. So when it comes down to it I'd pay a little less to have a better rifle (Stevens).

 

[stuckon308]

Well that's kind of what I thought. Any other owners have horrer stories? Now mabye the actual owners won't be affraid of ridicule and come forward with their stories. No, probably not. Why? Because the owners who fill their freezers every year don't log onto chat rooms to discuss why their rifle, the only one they could afford at the time is such a piece of s**t. With so many owners complaining of how bad their rifles are, my offer below still goes unanswered.

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We all know you have a hard on for the 710. I don't think anyone is doubting that there has to be a couple of 710's out there that can perform decently. But what we are saying is that it's a better idea to spend your money on a Stevens. Are there any threads on how the Stevens is a bad rifle and that some dude is returning his because the bolt sucks ass?

 

[manbearpig]

id be inclined to try a Marlin XL7/XS7 instead of the Stevens.
in the states its being touted as hands down the best value in firearms right now, and some great accuracy reports on it.
comes with a Savage style barrel/barrel nut, accutrigger-like thing, and a Sako-style extractor that looks like an improvement on the 700. bolt head and barrel seem easily swappable, so switching to a new chambering is pretty easy.

only problem is theyre going for about $290 in the US but, as usual, Canadian retailers are selling them for $450-500 . as soon as someone offers them for a more realistic $400, i will be picking one up.

seeing as most 770 owners have stated that they replaced the scope, they spent the same amount of money on their 770 as they would have on an XS7/XL7, and the latter seems like a far better investment.

 

[Why not?]

The Marlin bolt rifle is, indeed, a far superior rifle. The XL7 and XS7 rifle is currently selling for $330-370, at Bass Pro and from most dealers on this board.

I was in WSS, Nanaimo, on Sunday afternoon, and they were matching the Bass Pro price.

This make the 710/770 no longer even a consideration, unless you have already spent your money.

Ted

 

[manbearpig]

i checked the Bass Pro Canada website, but for some reason i cant seem to find any guns listed - do they not list their guns online? strange...

i would much rather order from someplace like P&D but they have it listed at $450. i need to call and ask if they are able to price match.

 

[saskgunowner101]

Did you guys really have to show the Marlin XL7 again?? I'm trying to hold off on buying one.(goodbye shotgun)

 

[kayaker1]

I almost recently bought an XS7 but went for a Savage instead.
The main reasons were the DBM on the Savage (although I can live with the Marlins blind magazine) and the Marlin bolt does not get locked down when the safety is on, a feature that I really didn't like on a hunting rifle. Why the chose to do that I have no idea!

Otherwise it looks like a great rifle.

 

[Why not?]

I have a 270, 7mm-08 and 30-06 in the Marlin. They all feed, fire, and eject without a hitch, and shoot inch or better groups. A friend of mine, who bought a 710 on a whim, didn't even get it home from the range without the cocking piece cover breaking off. It is plastic! Another fellow I know, had the bolt come out in his hand while cycling it.

Recently bought another XL7 in 270, and am having Bevan King barrel it up to 9.3X62. Tried a magazine full of them, and all four fed up and entered into the chamber perfectly.

Ted

 

[TheTooner]

... It is a cheap gun but for 400-500 you can ask for much more.

... from an actual owner of a 770.

You are so right. For $400-500 you can ask for much more. And if you ask Remington, you won't get it, but if you ask Savage, Stevens, or Marlin you will get what you are asking for, and maybe some $change.

 

[pharaoh2]

We all know you have a hard on for the 710. I don't think anyone is doubting that there has to be a couple of 710's out there that can perform decently. But what we are saying is that it's a better idea to spend your money on a Stevens. Are there any threads on how the Stevens is a bad rifle and that some dude is returning his because the bolt sucks ass?

And you owe the very existance of your Stevens to the 710. Don't forget, when it was introduced the 200 never existed. Savage brought it out to compete with the 710. And the only thing the Stevens has going for it is the aftermarket support of the Savage action. Both stocks are gross and both triggers are gross. But the Stevens can be refined. But most guys who want more opt to upgrade their existing 200 first, then end up buying a new rifle instead. And again if you recall, the 710 sold for about $350 with open sights when it was new. What's the 200 selling for these days?

 

[LongBomber]

$370 for the stevens at cabelas.ca

 

[BUSHMAN79]

And you owe the very existance of your Stevens to the 710. Don't forget, when it was introduced the 200 never existed. Savage brought it out to compete with the 710. And the only thing the Stevens has going for it is the aftermarket support of the Savage action. Both stocks are gross and both triggers are gross. But the Stevens can be refined. But most guys who want more opt to upgrade their existing 200 first, then end up buying a new rifle instead. And again if you recall, the 710 sold for about $350 with open sights when it was new. What's the 200 selling for these days?

And Remington only came out with that abortion to compete with Savage. I don't particularly care for either of them, and would rather spend the money on an old Husqvarna or something. Same amount of money or less than what you'd spend on a Tupperware rifle gets you something that will last forever, and will stand out when you go to the range. Of course, they don't come in a fancy box, but seriously, who cares?