If you really want someone to shoot a deer for you, and you want to pay for the license, accompany the hunter to the license vendor, and hand the money to the license vendor yourself, so that the hunter doesn't even touch it. Then good luck to someone trying to charge the hunter for accepting money or compensation in return for the deer he gives you.
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So just tell her you aren't sure it's legal and advise her to call the COs to ask. Then it's up to her.
Yup...lots of armchair lawyers here but I doubt many would pony up for her defense fund if an eager CO charged her. The fact is that lots of people have been charged with a lot less like the poor dad fishing with his kid in Saskatchewan. Unless I had it in writing I wouldn't take the chance or the advice of an internet lawyer
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that is what we are talking about .D
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He is not possessing another hunters seal.
She is giving him money to buy another seal for himself. He will shoot the deer and give it to her.
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Tell you what....the issue is getting clouded. Allow me to simplify:
I like hunting Turkey, but don't like eating it, so I dont hunt them nor buy a tag.
I am licenced to hunt them though.
If you want to pay for a tag though, I'd be happy to take that tag and try and shoot a bird....which I would then give to you because I don't like it.
The ministry sells a tag (win for them)
I get to hunt (win for me)
You enjoy a legally taken wild Turkey that has been deemed ok to take (by virtue of limited tags still available) (Win for you)
Now if you said "I'll pay you 50 bucks plus the cost of the tag to shoot me a bird": Illegal as I'm profiting
or if someone poached a Turkey for $$$, also illegal.
But if it's a legally purchased tag (regardless who paid for it...my wife pays for mine lol), and shot/gifted by a licenced hunter, I fail to see the issue.
I like hunting Turkey, but don't like eating it, so I dont hunt them nor buy a tag.
I am licenced to hunt them though.
If you want to pay for a tag though, I'd be happy to take that tag and try and shoot a bird....which I would then give to you because I don't like it.
The ministry sells a tag (win for them)
I get to hunt (win for me)
You enjoy a legally taken wild Turkey that has been deemed ok to take (by virtue of limited tags still available) (Win for you)
Now if you said "I'll pay you 50 bucks plus the cost of the tag to shoot me a bird": Illegal as I'm profiting
or if someone poached a Turkey for $$$, also illegal.
But if it's a legally purchased tag (regardless who paid for it...my wife pays for mine lol), and shot/gifted by a licenced hunter, I fail to see the issue.
I don't like eating ducks but I sure like shooting them. Unfortunately I don't have a migratory licence, steel shot nor do I have a pump action shotgun.
I am licenced to hunt though.
If you want to pay for my migratory license, ammo and shotgun, I'll hunt them and give am all to you cause I don't like em.
Am I profiting now? Is their a degree of profiting where it is OK?
I am licenced to hunt though.
If you want to pay for my migratory license, ammo and shotgun, I'll hunt them and give am all to you cause I don't like em.
Am I profiting now? Is their a degree of profiting where it is OK?
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That way I'm giving something to YOU...so yes, you are. The OP's scenario is giving money to the MNR.
Frig, this isn't rocket science people. I suppose if I give you access to my 5 acres of marsh/200 of corn and you share your game I'd be profiteering to?
holy cow.
Any my scenario is giving money to canadian tire...
You're right it isn't rocket science. Just because the OP is getting something that is not a tangible thing, does not mean they are not getting something in exchange for wild game. Regardless of how ridiculous it is does not change that fact.
Lets say I was going to hunt anyway and give away all the game but someone offers to pay for all my licences if I give them all my game. Now I've got an extra 200$ in my pocket, did I come out ahead? Why not go another step further, how about they pay my fuel too, not giving me anything still?
You're right it isn't rocket science. Just because the OP is getting something that is not a tangible thing, does not mean they are not getting something in exchange for wild game. Regardless of how ridiculous it is does not change that fact.
Lets say I was going to hunt anyway and give away all the game but someone offers to pay for all my licences if I give them all my game. Now I've got an extra 200$ in my pocket, did I come out ahead? Why not go another step further, how about they pay my fuel too, not giving me anything still?
That's where some people are being confused here, he is not talking about sharing game. He is talking about payment in the form of the fee's for a licence for the express purpose of obtaining wild game for an individual.Wrong Way;10707286\ said:
Are you offering your field and marsh for 5 ducks/hour or is it a dailey rate lol
My kid never had a licence, ammo, shotgun, rifle, safety course, PAL or anything else but wanted to go hunting. It gets worse; he doesn't have a truck, gas money either. Talk about your dead-beats! The little free-loader didn't even know how to shoot, and teaching that cost more than little. Even bought some hunting properties to give him a chance. After all that he brings the meat home and since we out-number him 4 to 1 that's proof that the little poaching prick was planning on feeding us the whole time.
Not only that he gave a moose roast or 4 to his ageing grandmother. I happen to know that she gave him some birthday money and a trained ape could follow that money trail. That does it, I'm calling the cops.
My first thought is to avoid the situation entirely.
Second thought is to have her do the legwork by contacting your local MNR and get the response in writing. Ultimately it will be them who decide the legalities.
Too much hassle for me, I enjoy hunting too much to gamble losing my privilege.
Get her to get her hunting licence, teach her to hunt. No grey area in that.
Second thought is to have her do the legwork by contacting your local MNR and get the response in writing. Ultimately it will be them who decide the legalities.
Too much hassle for me, I enjoy hunting too much to gamble losing my privilege.
Get her to get her hunting licence, teach her to hunt. No grey area in that.
just pull it out man, the discoloration may never wipe off! I emailed my retired C.O. buddy. I will post what he says when I get his email back.
I'm in NB and we only get one Tag here per season, Bucks only ....you can apply to be drawn for a Doe tag but that isn't an extra tag just a sticker / authorization to fill your one tag with a deer that doesn't have antlers. There is also paperwork that the hunter receives after registering the deer, to accompany the meat to the butcher shop (if the hunter uses that service) and the hunter is also supposed to obtain paperwork to accompany any meat he/ she gives away after the deer is harvested.
The scenario presented in this case isn't really possible in NB -- there are a couple of specific opportunities to get an extra tag, but it's almost exclusively a bow hunting opportunity in some select areas that come and go. For a overwhelming majority of the hunters here it's one tag per season.
In the OP's example I guess I'd wonder when the money exchanged hands. If it was before the deer was harvested ... it would sound less "fishy" to me ..... afterwards it would sound more like a purchase of meat for the price of one's tag/ game seal. And I suppose if someone was to buy a tag for someone else .... and that tag was not filled (doesn't get a deer) would they expect a refund?
In reality we are talking about small amounts of money and relatively small amounts of meat ... any conviction would be unlikely and i understand the who will know, who will care, what does it hurt line of thinking ...... but I share the OP skepticism about the legality of things.
Here's a thought. Does anyone here think it would be ok for the friend's wife to post an AD on Kijiji asking the same thing? We love deer meat and don't hunt ... we are willing to fund the purchase of an extra tag for a hunter please reply to notbuyingdeermeat@yahoo.ca .
The scenario presented in this case isn't really possible in NB -- there are a couple of specific opportunities to get an extra tag, but it's almost exclusively a bow hunting opportunity in some select areas that come and go. For a overwhelming majority of the hunters here it's one tag per season.
In the OP's example I guess I'd wonder when the money exchanged hands. If it was before the deer was harvested ... it would sound less "fishy" to me ..... afterwards it would sound more like a purchase of meat for the price of one's tag/ game seal. And I suppose if someone was to buy a tag for someone else .... and that tag was not filled (doesn't get a deer) would they expect a refund?
In reality we are talking about small amounts of money and relatively small amounts of meat ... any conviction would be unlikely and i understand the who will know, who will care, what does it hurt line of thinking ...... but I share the OP skepticism about the legality of things.
Here's a thought. Does anyone here think it would be ok for the friend's wife to post an AD on Kijiji asking the same thing? We love deer meat and don't hunt ... we are willing to fund the purchase of an extra tag for a hunter please reply to notbuyingdeermeat@yahoo.ca .
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Question....let's say:
My family doesn't eat deer...just me.
So I give half my butchered deer to my Mother in Law as she loves it.
Because I'm giving her 1/2 of my deer, she gives me 40 bucks for 1/2 of my lic/tag.
legal?
So now let's say I buy an extra tag, and take two deer to the butcher.
I give half my butchered deer to my Mother in Law as she loves it.
Because I'm giving her 1/2 of my deer, she gives me 50 bucks for 1/2 of my lic/tags.
legal?
My family doesn't eat deer...just me.
So I give half my butchered deer to my Mother in Law as she loves it.
Because I'm giving her 1/2 of my deer, she gives me 40 bucks for 1/2 of my lic/tag.
legal?
So now let's say I buy an extra tag, and take two deer to the butcher.
I give half my butchered deer to my Mother in Law as she loves it.
Because I'm giving her 1/2 of my deer, she gives me 50 bucks for 1/2 of my lic/tags.
legal?
