Rude Landowners

mgcolley said:
Little story,

I was out searching for land to hunt, and I found a few properties that I saw deer on, one property had a very long driveway and a private property sign, so instead of driving up to the door I left them a letter in their mailbox by the road. This was a very nice letter, not to brag, simply explaining what I was looking for and how I did not approach their door as to not breach their privacy etc. I got an email response stating, "Take your interests elsewhere and if I ever see you on my property I am calling the police".
I am getting so sick of rude landowners, I am sure they get sick of people asking or some have had bad experiences, but I never touched their property and I left a harmless letter, seemed a little harsh.

Oh well, guess these are the things we have to put up with, wish people were more accepting of hunting
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the " if I see you ...." part is just ensuring that you don't try to risk a chance on thier property
 
The hunting areas around Newmarket,East Gwillimbury,Whitchurch-Stouffville and Georgina are shrinking for sure. I use to do the Controlled Deer hunt and it is just not worth the trouble as too many people now and I don't feel too safe.
 
I`ve been given permission and was told to drop the gate and drive in. I politely said "no" and that if I was to go in the field....it would be on foot. That farmer had a look of surprise when I said that. I told him "he would never know I was there". He respected that alot!
As to the OP`s situation: Do what the JW`s do, send a kid up to knock on the door. Get the kid to say they are starving and would like to add a deer to their freezer, then you(parent) come around the corner. lol
 
I forgot to add: If you finally do get permission and lets say you are the only one the farmer has given permission to......Don`t bring buddies along. If you do, you tell your buddies they are not allowed unless you are there. Last thing you want is the farmer approaching these "buddies" and they say they "know" you. That will IRK the farmer more than anything and will more than likely revoke your privilages
 
I can understand this land owners attitude.
I get people in my driveway almost everyday turning around and
letting their kids out.
First few years I was nice and polite.
Now it's "get the phuck outta here".
One chap last winter parked and decided to test me out.
Good thing the chap had the disable card hanging from his mirror.
He didn't like it that I mentioned being mentally challenged has no
merit with me.
This whole session should of been recorded.

Hay Martha, here they come again.......let the dogs out.
 
This thread is interesting. Where I am from people do not generally ask permission unless land is posted or by the home quater.If land owners do not want hunting they post the land, or have a crop seeded sign or cattle sign etc and hunters respect that. We are in a location that has a zone on each side of us, in one zone no vehicals allowed the other zone no problems as long as its not posted and people just drive around as they please. We had farm and cattle land in the past and we let anyone hunt on our land, and if we saw people driving around on our land that was normal and expected,and wished them best of luck by the way. As a hunter we are all just having fun and controlling the population, some people do have the "cranky its my land attitude" and it is their right however that is not a normality around here.
 
Nick0danger said:
Own a section and half and I can count on 1 hand amount of times I've been asked for permission, we have both farm and city house we are 20 mins east of bass pro shops north of Calgary, almost drive right into our farm, took over the farm from the wife's grandad 5 years ago, he says he rarely got asked for permission. Cousin for 4 years now has a piece of prime hunting land just west of carstairs, we shoot ducks deer and moose, he shoot an almost 200 inch mulie has a ton of deer, and he has been asked once a year at the most. Land owners I talk to don't get asked often and most would love the geese shot but there are not enough water fowlers.
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Nick I bet if your cousin put a sign up at Silver Willow looking for geese hunters he would have some approach him? If he is actively looking that is.
 
mytiburon said:
This thread is interesting. Where I am from people do not generally ask permission unless land is posted or by the home quater.If land owners do not want hunting they post the land, or have a crop seeded sign or cattle sign etc and hunters respect that. We are in a location that has a zone on each side of us, in one zone no vehicals allowed the other zone no problems as long as its not posted and people just drive around as they please. We had farm and cattle land in the past and we let anyone hunt on our land, and if we saw people driving around on our land that was normal and expected,and wished them best of luck by the way. As a hunter we are all just having fun and controlling the population, some people do have the "cranky its my land attitude" and it is their right however that is not a normality around here.
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Same here.
 
mgcolley said:
I got an email response stating, "Take your interests elsewhere and if I ever see you on my property I am calling the police".
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Sounds pretty polite to me, not to mention that the landowner took the time from their day to give you fair warning. They didn't have to respond at all, and really just could've called the police and pressed tresspassing charges should you have set foot on their property.

Lots of crown land to hunt, and I'm sure they're not the only deer in all of Ontario. Just keep moving on and you'll find the deer of a lifetime elsewhere.
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
Nick I bet if your cousin put a sign up at Silver Willow looking for geese hunters he would have some approach him? If he is actively looking that is.
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He's not does not get many geese but ducks, I'm thinking I'll need some geese shooters though. If you drive straight out of silver willow you will literally drive right into his place after a couple miles.
 
Interesting thread, for sure. I have been on both sides of the fence. Years back, I farmed 7 quarters, but never had any big issues with slob hunters. Where I live, I knew all the people whose land I hunted on, and they knew I hunted there.

Years later, I bought a quarter of bush/pasture with an eye to maybe putting a house on it. It was only three miles from town, but had no real trouble there either. It was posted no hunting, but people were welcome to hunt there anyway.

I phone one fellow every year for permission, and he always tells me I don't have to ask, but you never know if things might change.

Around here, it used to be the thing to grumble about the city hunters, but if the truth were known, in a lot of cases, it was the local "sportsmen" cutting fences and driving all over the fields. The local yokels used to chase coyotes with snow machines until the coyote couldn't run any more. These guys would brag about doing that. There is probably still some of that going on.
 
davemccarthy707 said:
What are these landowners you speak of?....;)
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It's a bit of a missnomer, the "owner" pays rent commonly known as "taxes" forever in exchange for the privilege of being able to kick hunters off.There are fringe benefits, but those are heavily regulated and vary from place to place.Hardly worth mentioning, really.

If the "owner" refuses to pay his "taxes" people with a piece of paper and a gun will make him leave.

The pieces of paper that say that you can stay as long as you pay your "taxes" are commonly traded like baseball cards.
 
These land owners are often harrassed by many people and organizations as well as hunters, some people and even some religous organizations do not listen when told politely.

If he did not threaten you with anything other than tresspass charges if you came on the property then i would not neccesarily call him rude.

At times of the year some rural land owners are so busy they are working 20+ hours a day (fall harvest especially) and if they don't reply in some way they get tresspassers who wreck the land and do damage.

Not saying he was right to do it but if you want permission you should almost always ask in person face to face as it show's respect, anyone can litter hundreds of mail boxes with paper, it takes respect to look a man in the eyes and ask.

My 2 cent's fwiw
 
crazydave said:
Not saying he was right to do it but if you want permission you should almost always ask in person face to face as it show's respect, anyone can litter hundreds of mail boxes with paper, it takes respect to look a man in the eyes and ask.
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Excellent advice. I've had landowners change their mind after chatting with them for a while.
 
Here is why he though it was rude, this is what my response would have been................

" As to your inquiry for hunting on the land you asked about.At this time I am not allowing any type of hunting on my land due to various personal reasons.I do appreciate you taking the time to contact me in asking for permission as many others do not.Good luck on your search and good luck hunting"

Same result,no hard feelings between landowners and hunters, same amount of energy expelled.
 
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