I already think the prices are nuts. How did they go from $800 10 years ago to almost 2k? There is inflation, but that cant explain a 150% price increase. I love leverguns but they AREN"T WORTH 2K. Prices are literally insane these days.
Ruger-Made Marlin Lever-Action 1895 SBL Rifle: First Look
- Thread starter 1ABNDT
- Start date
- Location
- Steel Town
Yepper. The No. 1S is vastly nicer in that price range.
Tabacco Brook
Regular
- Location
- Nova Scotia
I guess it looks like the JM's are still King.
Hopefully Ruger will get the imperfections worked out, and the price a bit more friendly. It would be nice to see some of the old Chamberings too. Ruger is known to throw out a few 358win chamberings now and then, I think it would be pretty cool if they did a run of levers in 358.
Hopefully Ruger will get the imperfections worked out, and the price a bit more friendly. It would be nice to see some of the old Chamberings too. Ruger is known to throw out a few 358win chamberings now and then, I think it would be pretty cool if they did a run of levers in 358.
Looks like they did a nice job rounding over the edges of the lever, I have a REmlin era 336SS that you can shave finger nails with.... 
As far as cost... it's partially "Justin-flation" but most Ruger models have been climbing in price for at least 5 years. Ruger Number one's always seemed pricey to me and they are around $2100 and up plus tax these days.... so around $2500 all in.
As far as cost... it's partially "Justin-flation" but most Ruger models have been climbing in price for at least 5 years. Ruger Number one's always seemed pricey to me and they are around $2100 and up plus tax these days.... so around $2500 all in.
Last edited:
A short-barrel levergun...in stainless steel??? That's got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of!
That was my reaction when they first announced the SBL way back when. After firing a buddy's brand new one, I immediately searched for and bought one of my own...a lovely JM-marked used specimen I found at Epps. It's become one of those keep-it-forever guns for me. For a fan of big-bore levers, it is just about the ideal 200-yard hunting rifle.
The new one? Can't say I like the fluted bolt or threaded barrel. I do admire the look of the thinned-down fore-end, although I like the feel of my older fatter one. It looks like all the metal edges are "broken" nicely, rather than being razor sharp as on a lot of the Remlins I've seen. Red bullseye and Marlin logo on the pistol grip? Who gives a crap about that? I like the fibre optic front sight but worry about the durability of it; if they wanted to use tritium then that's the place I would have chosen. I don't see any benefit in outlining a rear peep with any type of hi-vis circle; you look through it rather than at it.
The write-up mentions the refinements to the mechanics designed to improve smoothness and trigger pull. I can't speak to that, as my older gun is buttery smooth and has a lovely crisp trigger that may have been gunsmith-tuned before I got it.
The price is...the price. I wouldn't even consider it if I wasn't certain that I would like the gun; but if I were forced (at gunpoint?) to sell my current SBL, I would likely sell it on the EE for the type of exorbitant price I see them fetching nowadays, and then spend the cash to replace it with one of these new ones. Leverguns were the tactical rifles of their day; this one is a pretty lousy example of an old-timey-feeling cowboy gun, but it is an exceptionally useful modern hunting rifle that shoots/reloads quickly (for those that care), makes a big hole in critters using one of my favourite cartridges, is easily scoped for older eyes, and has an effective range that covers a lot of the hunting that a lot people do.
I won't extrapolate from one single picture (of an early- or pre-production example) how well-made these guns will prove to be. I hope they are built properly; if they are, then Ruger deserves to sell a ton of them. Mine will likely lose some of its resale value if that happens; no skin off my nose, since it's not going anywhere.
That was my reaction when they first announced the SBL way back when. After firing a buddy's brand new one, I immediately searched for and bought one of my own...a lovely JM-marked used specimen I found at Epps. It's become one of those keep-it-forever guns for me. For a fan of big-bore levers, it is just about the ideal 200-yard hunting rifle.
The new one? Can't say I like the fluted bolt or threaded barrel. I do admire the look of the thinned-down fore-end, although I like the feel of my older fatter one. It looks like all the metal edges are "broken" nicely, rather than being razor sharp as on a lot of the Remlins I've seen. Red bullseye and Marlin logo on the pistol grip? Who gives a crap about that? I like the fibre optic front sight but worry about the durability of it; if they wanted to use tritium then that's the place I would have chosen. I don't see any benefit in outlining a rear peep with any type of hi-vis circle; you look through it rather than at it.
The write-up mentions the refinements to the mechanics designed to improve smoothness and trigger pull. I can't speak to that, as my older gun is buttery smooth and has a lovely crisp trigger that may have been gunsmith-tuned before I got it.
The price is...the price. I wouldn't even consider it if I wasn't certain that I would like the gun; but if I were forced (at gunpoint?) to sell my current SBL, I would likely sell it on the EE for the type of exorbitant price I see them fetching nowadays, and then spend the cash to replace it with one of these new ones. Leverguns were the tactical rifles of their day; this one is a pretty lousy example of an old-timey-feeling cowboy gun, but it is an exceptionally useful modern hunting rifle that shoots/reloads quickly (for those that care), makes a big hole in critters using one of my favourite cartridges, is easily scoped for older eyes, and has an effective range that covers a lot of the hunting that a lot people do.
I won't extrapolate from one single picture (of an early- or pre-production example) how well-made these guns will prove to be. I hope they are built properly; if they are, then Ruger deserves to sell a ton of them. Mine will likely lose some of its resale value if that happens; no skin off my nose, since it's not going anywhere.
Thanks for not adding to the silliness...
Lol, some of the posts on here were starting to sound like archaeologists. Those guys will find a bone chip the size of a toenail clipping, and confidently explain that they are the remains of a red and purple dinosaur 80ft long with webbed toes and a crest on its head that was semi-aquatic and ate only lasagna.
I'll wait for a few more bones to come to light.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
I'm not really sure if this is a serious question...or a humorous poke at how this thread has been going.
Even with you highlighting it in the picture, I am uncertain that there is anything to see there. The hammer is profiled and contoured differently than the hammer on my old SBL, so is that vague line anything other than just the shape of the hammer, or an artifact of the lighting?
If Ruger has actually altered the design of the Marlin levergun to the point where there is a spring wrapped around the external perimeter of the hammer...I take back what I said about them deserving to sell a lot of these guns. But again, we seem to reading an awful lot into a magnified low-resolution image of an early production rifle.
Please...this is a joke, right?
Or maybe there is something there, but it is perhaps part of the hammer spur? I mean, surely nowadays a hammer spur is a lawyer/litigation magnet? Have they done something to make the spur "safe" and we are seeing it in that pic?
Oh...I know...it's a "smart" hammer spur! Yeah, that's it...instead of cocking it with your thumb, you just call the rifle on your phone and say "Alexa, please #### the hammer on my rifle!"
The perfect refinement for today's discriminating consumer, who can't turn on a light switch or wipe his a$$ without asking a computer to do it for him...
Last edited:
I'm not really sure if this is a serious question...or a humorous poke at how this thread has been going.
Even with you highlighting it in the picture, I am uncertain that there is anything to see there. The hammer is profiled and contoured differently than the hammer on my old SBL, so is that vague line anything other than just the shape of the hammer, or an artifact of the lighting?
If Ruger has actually altered the design of the Marlin levergun to the point where there is a spring wrapped around the external perimeter of the hammer...I take back what I said about them deserving to sell a lot of these guns. But again, we seem to reading an awful lot into a magnified low-resolution image of an early production rifle.
Please...this is a joke, right?
Or maybe there is something there, but it is perhaps part of the hammer spur? I mean, surely nowadays a hammer spur is a lawyer/litigation magnet? Have they done something to make the spur "safe" and we are seeing it in that pic?
Oh...I know...it's a "smart" hammer spur! Yeah, that's it...instead of cocking it with your thumb, you just call the rifle on your phone and say "Alexa, please #### the hammer on my rifle!"
The perfect refinement for today's discriminating consumer, who can't turn on a light switch or wipe his a$$ without asking a computer to do it for him...
Could the rifle call Alexa? Then guns really could kill people?
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
I'm not really sure if this is a serious question...or a humorous poke at how this thread has been going.
Please...this is a joke, right?
Or maybe there is something there, but it is perhaps part of the hammer spur? I mean, surely nowadays a hammer spur is a lawyer/litigation magnet? Have they done something to make the spur "safe" and we are seeing it in that pic?
Looking at the bare hammer it would appear that the flat spring could be acting as a retainer for the offset spur. There's no hole through the side of the hammer
to fit a through bolt type offset spur. Silly way to go I say.
Attachments
The first pic in this thread doesn't seem to show any such spring. It does, however, reveal what appears to be a setscrew in the centre of the cylindrical body of the hammerspur, which appears to simply tighten against the side of the hammer like many aftermarket ones do.
In fact, the pic in your post above seems to show an indented area along the ridge on the side of the hammer, which might serve to keep the setscrew from sliding along the hammer and falling off.
Dang! I think I'm getting played here...
In fact, the pic in your post above seems to show an indented area along the ridge on the side of the hammer, which might serve to keep the setscrew from sliding along the hammer and falling off.
Dang! I think I'm getting played here...
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
We're all being played here by the corporate gunmakers & marketers these days.
No more than with every other product... supply and demand still rule... tariffs and taxation comes into play also, and with guns the political climate is relevant in product valuation as well... take a look at the USA gun market right now.
I’m pretty sure you’re correct on all points. Here are a couple screenshots of my EE ad when I sold my SBL recently. I added the aftermarket hammerspur that used a set screw in the position that seems to correspond with the indentation you pointed out. There was no indentation on the Marlin however. I’d set the position by feel, and tighten when the hammer tip was flush with the hammerspur body. So Ruger must have added that indentation.
Attachments
Last edited:
buck knife
CGN Regular
- Location
- Golden forest
Another thing I'm wondering is will the Wild West guns trigger happy kits fit these rifles or will they need to re vamp their triggers?
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Ruger says they've upgraded the trigger, so I reckon the trigger aftermarket guys will be quick to make Ruglin triggers.
