Rumors of a Spring Election

Bingo, if he makes any upcoming election one about guns he will quickly hand a majority government to the Liberals.

90% of the population do not know the difference between a machine gun and a water gun.

The Liberals will make it an election about guns.

When, not if, Trudeau brings up guns we have an opportunity to deflect the issue to one about people, not the guns. Key words in PP 10 second sound bites will be about cooperation, helping, support and hope instead of magazine size, assault rifles and killing the most people in the shortest time.

PP then will be using concepts that got Trudeau his 2015 majority leaving the Great Pretender to explain to the public why banning this gun or that gun will increase safety to a greater extent than helping people on the edge of using a gun or a van or a knife to act out.

180 degree turn putting the virtue signalling in the CPC toolbox.

What is your plan on how to act and what to say when Trudeau or a rude jackass like Tom Parry hounds PP about his position on guns? I'm waiting with all ears .............
 
For sound bites one would be PP putting a total overhaul of the approach to helping people by forming an alliance right in the Ministerial mandate letters.

Doesn't need to be fleshed out; PP is smart enough to make up actual details on the fly.

The concept of different way of doing business will knock th eLPC off their playbook; it's easy because they're way to comfortable with the predictability of the gun community pushback.
 
The Liberals will make it an election about guns.

When, not if, Trudeau brings up guns we have an opportunity to deflect the issue to one about people, not the guns. Key words in PP 10 second sound bites will be about cooperation, helping, support and hope instead of magazine size, assault rifles and killing the most people in the shortest time.

PP then will be using concepts that got Trudeau his 2015 majority leaving the Great Pretender to explain to the public why banning this gun or that gun will increase safety to a greater extent than helping people on the edge of using a gun or a van or a knife to act out.

180 degree turn putting the virtue signalling in the CPC toolbox.

What is your plan on how to act and what to say when Trudeau or a rude jackass like Tom Parry hounds PP about his position on guns? I'm waiting with all ears .............

Let's make it very simple, if PP says that he will give people more guns he will lost the election. At this point in time if he says that he will not give people more guns then stupid people will vote PPC and he will lose the election.

The key here is simple, DO NOT VOTE AGAINST THE CPC if you want C-21 gone.
 
Let's make it very simple, if PP says that he will give people more guns he will lost the election. At this point in time if he says that he will not give people more guns then stupid people will vote PPC and he will lose the election.

The key here is simple, DO NOT VOTE AGAINST THE CPC if you want C-21 gone.

Even simpler, I didn't say anything about giving people more guns.

Helping people navigate rough times and reduce the potential for them to harm themselves or others is what I'm talking about.

Do yourself a favour and follow the link I've provided then spend two hours understanding what has happened in the USA in the past 7 years.

Then you may still decide that it's not for us but at least you will be informed.
 
Liberals are sheep and need their sheppard of big government to take care of them. This country is doomed. Prepare accordingly lol


Liberals are not the only sheep I'm afraid to say; there's lots of wool here too.

We've been doing the same recipe for the last 5 decades (and more) and wondering why nothing changes.
 
Obama won with hopey changey
Trudeau won with hopey changey
O'Toole lost because he was going to form a loaded panel to decide which guns were fit for civilians and posters here want more of the same?
Advice to PP is along the same lines ...........
 
Obama won with hopey changey
Trudeau won with hopey changey
O'Toole lost because he was going to form a loaded panel to decide which guns were fit for civilians and posters here want more of the same?
Advice to PP is along the same lines ...........

TOOL lost bcuz he is a spineless coward.
 
- none of the points that you outline connote HOPE, they just paint a dark picture. Hope floats.
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The two points i have that are HOPE related

Economy - making it better (a chicken in every pot)
Healthcare - making it better (Nova Scotia Conservative premiere won last year with a laser focus on healthcare)

How you spin them is the politicians job

I agree that trying the same over and over will likely give the same result
 
When, not if, Trudeau brings up guns we have an opportunity to deflect the issue to one about people, not the guns. Key words in PP 10 second sound bites will be about cooperation, helping, support and hope instead of magazine size, assault rifles and killing the most people in the shortest time.

This is a good idea.

You can't win if you play a game created and arbitrated by your opponent.

Debating gun [x] vs [y] is not interesting to the wider public, and they don't understand or care about the nuances of the Ruger No. 1.

They do care and will understand a conversation about people.

How to help people and make society genuinely safer.

Good thinking here.
 
Obama won with hopey changey
Trudeau won with hopey changey
O'Toole lost because he was going to form a loaded panel to decide which guns were fit for civilians and posters here want more of the same?
Advice to PP is along the same lines ...........

Bernier is an actual WEF supporter… PP stuck up for the Unvaxed. What more do you need?
 
This is a good idea.

You can't win if you play a game created and arbitrated by your opponent.

Debating gun [x] vs [y] is not interesting to the wider public, and they don't understand or care about the nuances of the Ruger No. 1.

They do care and will understand a conversation about people.

How to help people and make society genuinely safer.

Good thinking here.

Thank you, I appreciate your comment.

It gets better if we put the focus on people that spill outside of our gun community:

- whatever percentage of the population that are gun owners there are a lot more people outside of our community who have stress issues, depression and all other forms of temporary episodes of an in ability to cope. Anything that we do, in conjunction with government ministries, to help these people will go a long way to redefining our image.
- in our fight against the antis we only have one degree of freedom and that is to exert enough influence politically that the Liberals can't cut us down as deep as they want to. Until next time. When you start reaching out with people top of mind the degrees of freedom and the opportunity to pick the right issues, the right allays, the right message and the right audience expand infinitely. Strategic plans, good professional PR and long term / sincere effort to follow through can only attract like minded people; gun owners and non gun owners alike.
- I have a mild expression of interest from a major Canadian suicide prevention org and they left me with the impression that the idea of an alliance with us, the people who know firearms, was doable but they do not have the money. This is where government comes in - funding.
- we're not limited to supporting our new allies. The gun community can offer bursaries of scholarships to people of our choosing and qualify them according to our rules to sow the seeds of understanding in the broader public - one mind at a time.

Hopefully Wolverine will pick up on this and use their influence to get it on the agenda for the next election. When it became apparent that O'Toole wasn't going to wipe the floor with the Failure eof A Lifetime PM I got a call from someone in the CPC asking me for more details about this idea but it was too late by then. We have a few months now to get it ready for prime time.
 
TOOL lost bcuz he is a spineless coward.

TOOL and his crew lost because they had no brains. Every election you can set your watch by the liberal play book. GUNS, ###S and ABORTION. They F____d Scheer with abortion, they F_____d OTOOLE with guns. The ### card has been played many times.

Only an imbecile would go into a debate without a well thought out response to those three topics.
 
TOOL lost bcuz he is a spineless coward.

Trudeau is also a spineless coward - do you need any examples of that or do you know it already?

So if both politicians are less than brave please tell me why Trudeau "won"???
 
TOOL and his crew lost because they had no brains. Every election you can set your watch by the liberal play book. GUNS, ###S and ABORTION. They F____d Scheer with abortion, they F_____d OTOOLE with guns. The ### card has been played many times.

Only an imbecile would go into a debate without a well thought out response to those three topics.

So what do you think about destabilizing Trudeau with an entirely different approach to "the gun problem" on the eve of an election?
 
The two points i have that are HOPE related

Economy - making it better (a chicken in every pot)
Healthcare - making it better (Nova Scotia Conservative premiere won last year with a laser focus on healthcare)

How you spin them is the politicians job

I agree that trying the same over and over will likely give the same result

Here's the battle plan that the gun community could use and spells out what Trudeau is expecting: https://www.producer.com/1998/09/antigun-control-movement-plans-parliament-hill-rally/

Good stuff eh! Sure fire results you say!

Now check the date on the article .............
 
This new tool to fight anti gun over reach is mission impossible?

Really.

IN the USA the largest suicide prevention org approached the firearms retail lobby (NSSF) for help in reducing suicide by firearms.

Get this. The NSSF is based in Sandy Hook!

But they thrashed out a common goal and go two work - reading about this chain of events is actually inspiring to me after 50 years of fighting back at the antis and losing; one cut at a time.
 
The liberals are going to win another minority government.

I think Quebec is the wild card here.

2021 Quebec stats
Lib 33.6%
Bloc 32.1%
CPC 18.6%
NDP 18.6%
PPC 2.7%
Green 1.5%


If CPC can get all the PPC and 40% of the Bloc they beat the Lib's
 
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