Rumors of a Spring Election

powerbaitron said:
I didn’t think saying Chinese nationals who come to work or study here and who return to China are sometimes involved in espionage was such an inflammatory thing to say.

China is our main enemy and the largest threat to the west. For people to try and smear that comment to hate against Chinese or Asian Canadians is total gas lighting. This will be my last comment in regards to this as it’s clear some want to make it appear nefarious.
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Going a bit off topic here, but Realpolitikly speaking, why is China our enemy as opposed to the USA or anyone else? China is a separate country we trade with, its our #2 trade partner. I seem to recall us arresting Meng on the US's behalf despite the fact that the US could have forced her flight down as it flew over the US to Mexico. Trump basically screwed our trade with China and then he took a hammer to our trade and screwed us because we had to kiss his ass as we had just lost China. Remember how Trump rewarded/compensated us by imposing large tariffs on our steel+iron? The US has never really been our friend and is happy to exploit us for their own gain with no remorse. Keystone which was approved, half built, then cancelled with no compensation also being a prime example. There was a study of spies arrested in Canada and Sweden and the US were at the top of the list along with China. The Chinese don't appear to spy on us any more than our own allies, that being said I'm sure they spy on nations that actually matter to them like the US. Geopolitically speaking in terms of Russia, India+China are both very friendly/supporting Russia yet for some reason we give India a pass. Financially speaking I think the US has screwed us on many more deals than China has. If your going to look at the arrests of Canadians in China, the US has been happy to kidnap Canadians and hold them/torture them without trial in black sites even when those Canadians weren't in the US. Several countries have also done similar but the US is generally the only one happy to kidnap Canadians even outside the US.

Our once vibrant automotive industry died due to the US government offering many incentives for local production despite us supposedly being "allies".

Ideologically speaking China is a lot different than here but so is Russia and Venezuela and a whole host of other countries, many of them closer to us. China isn't the one invading Ukraine right now and at least they buy our trade goods rather than compete with us in the oil industry like Rus/Ven. Given China's high population and factory demand, they should be a huge market for our raw resources.

I'm not saying we shouldn't compete against China, but the fact is the world is not our friend and we can't pretend that any nation isn't out to get us if it benefits them. The US is quite happy to squeeze us for their own gain and have several times in the past. We are only friends when its convenient for them. If it was possible I'd be totally down for having our own nuclear weapons again but as we can't I'd suggest we should invest in accurate ICBMs in a few silos scatted across the Canadian shield. You don't need a nuke to do a lot of damage and I think the fact that we can lob a missile into the house of the leader of any nation that attacks us is a much better deterrent than people think. The fact is if Ukraine had missiles that could have hit Putin's palace I doubt the war would have happened, or at the very least I doubt Putin's would threaten nuclear attacks because Ukraine could get Moscow back.

Don't buy into US media that we're all friends with them against others. We're not really friends these are alliances of convenience. On our side we've been happy to screw NATO by reducing our military commitment to less than it should be and allowing our allies to pick up the slack.

PS: Any Chinese national outside China in Canada is usually here to try to get PR because they don't want to be in China. The fact is Western culture is infectious and being here with freedom of speech, drugs, p0rn, junk food, etc. corrupts Chinese nationals pretty fast. Don't assume a Chinese person being here is a friend of the Communist party and I think you'll see that a lot in the US as well where Venezuelans are very anti Communist because if they liked that they would have stayed. China has become a lot more free simply because Western culture has infected them and its made them lazy. The government is not as powerful as it was and power is definitely not as absolute as it was. The HK and Covid protests really showed that they would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. And I want to emphasize this again, young men do not want to give up their p0rn.
 
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I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Justin tries to throw this election before his house of bankrupt cards comes crashing down, not like that poor excuse for a man could take an iota of responsibility.

He will just sit back and play lip service blaming the conservatives for all the cuts and such they will inevitably have to make to even begin cleaning up another liberal fiscal disaster.
 
Pro China shills out in force today. Communists are the lowest form of scum on earth and have no place in Canada. The Chinese govt donates to the liberal party of Canada for a reason.
 
powerbaitron said:
A Chinese national is a Chinese citizen working abroad who has to do what they are told. I am not refering to chinese or asian Canadians…
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North koreans yes maybe they follow orders Chinese hell no, again, millions of Chinese oversea and I think you read needs to meet more Chinese gun owners, many of them are PR or students yet they are active CGN and CCFR members, many of them spent 100k on gun stuff and talk to them. Fun fact, Chinese nationals in Canada are having a hard time getting their passport renewed to return to China because China said yall better stay outside so we can do our Covid policy better, let alone follow orders. The only order for 99.9% of Chinese to follow, is from their Chinese parents :)

As for the bad apples, yes, there are cases of spy like hydro quebec case but don't let these becomes the reason for genernalization. Otherwise we be like liberals, oh one bad case of SKS shooting then suddenly all hunting semis are bad. This logic is always irrational.

Let's focusing on how we can prep for Sping election and how we can MAKE SURE LIBERALS IS OUT IN 2023
 
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apexanimal said:
Pro China shills out in force today. Communists are the lowest form of scum on earth and have no place in Canada. The Chinese govt donates to the liberal party of Canada for a reason.
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Well, I think in that case you might want to make sure Liberals get voted out. And always, hate the goverment not the people. United we stand against Liberals.
 
powerbaitron said:
Chinese nationals who are here studying or working are expected/pressures to report intelligence back to China. This is a fact. It has nothing to do with race - it has to do with the fact that China is highly involved in espionage globally. This is my opinion and I did not submit a research paper so don’t need to source it.

I am not referring to Chinese Canadians - i am refering to Chinese nationals - people here studying abroad or working who are Chinese citizens.

If you feel the need to cancel culture me or threaten to label me as a racist go ahead. I stand by what I said and it is NOT racist.
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Sounds exactly like how Liberal are saying "We are not banning hunting rifles ,we are banning assualt style weapons, it has nothing to do with attacking canadian gun owners". Thanks. Now you know why Liberal wants to ban all semis without any data to backup the claim.

"Chinese nationals who are here studying or working are expected/pressures to report intelligence back to China. This is a fact." And then "This is my opinion and I did not submit a research paper so don’t need to source it. "

I am the Chinese national that went through PR and eventually became Canadian and CPC member, so does many many my friends who went through the same process. And somehow you are implying people like us are spies are just insane and indeed racist. You believed we were required to provide integellgence? WTF? The misinfomation and ignorance here is just insane. Since I am a conservative member and I used to be Chinese citizen years ago does that mean Convervative Party are now offcially compromised? lol

Thanks for showing us when you are emotional and biased, source ain't matter. This is bascially the Liberal's very logic when they Draft Bill C21. The only difference is you don't trust Chinese and Liberal don't trust gun owners.
 
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powerbaitron said:
We are all entitled to our opinions. I do not trust the state of China. I won’t apologize for that.
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Don't trust any state including our own. Even the CPC party is just the best option rather than a government I'd really get behind. Harper did a lot of good but he wasn't perfect and his last 4 years were a disappointment.

One obvious example, back when COVID started no party pushed for border closures. If we had gone Fortress Canada at the start we wouldn't have urgently needed vaccines and a lot of Canadians would still be alive or healthier. Imagine if CVD was even more deadly, the fact is when there's a mysterious deadly virus spreading you don't leave all borders open without checks.

Btw if your a CPC supporter I think Chinese are the minority that is most behind the CPC. You don't leave a left wing nation because you support it and Chinese here are big shooting fans. Yes, mainlanders can be rude dicks or show off too much or refuse to learn the language but the ability to be a rude #### is exactly the freedom of speech we all support :D

Indo-Canadians are NDP while African-Canadians are usually Liberal I think?
 
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powerbaitron said:
We are all entitled to our opinions. I do not trust the state of China. I won’t apologize for that.
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I dont't trust either, hell I don't trust any government at this point. Just make sure seperate the people from the state. And remember at this time, united we stand. :)
 
HawkWei said:
North koreans yes maybe they follow orders Chinese hell no, again, millions of Chinese oversea and I think you read needs to meet more Chinese gun owners, many of them are PR or students yet they are active CGN and CCFR members, many of them spent 100k on gun stuff and talk to them. Fun fact, Chinese nationals in Canada are having a hard time getting their passport renewed to return to China because China said yall better stay outside so we can do our Covid policy better, let alone follow orders. The only order for 99.9% of Chinese to follow, is from their Chinese parents :)

As for the bad apples, yes, there are cases of spy like hydro quebec case but don't let these becomes the reason for genernalization. Otherwise we be like liberals, oh one bad case of SKS shooting then suddenly all hunting semis are bad. This logic is always irrational.

Let's focusing on how we can prep for Sping election and how we can MAKE SURE LIBERALS IS OUT IN 2023
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the club I go to, has a significant Chinese presence.....few women too, despite being in Quebec.
 
vickers vanguard said:
the club I go to, has a significant Chinese presence.....few women too, despite being in Quebec.
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I think one problem with firearm ownership in Canada is we lack a central strong authority thats worked to get youth, women, and immigrants into ownership/use. Definitely needs to be a lot bigger pushes towards airsoft/painball in youth because that leads to interest in firearms plus people realize they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot that easily.

For many guns are "scary" which is a mistake. Since AB and other CPC provinces have CPC governments maybe we should have a youth program that goes to every highschool and teaches the same basic firearm safety/info course that we all get for our licenses using disabled rifles.

One reason the left has become so strong is that they indoctrinate youth in schools with a lot of "Communism" bull#### where we're a perfect society. Thats how communism got so popular back during the Soviets and its making another comeback now.

We need to start fighting back. Teach youth basic gun rights, property rights, taxes, etc. Most youth will go nuts if they find out taxes take 30-50% of your wage. Most Canadians don't understand that legal gun owners aren't the criminals.

Given that we have government sponsored television I think the ruling and opposition party should each get 10 minutes to film whatever they want. I think the CPC could make a great 10 minutes of Trudeau dodging questions.

 
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HawkWei said:
Sounds exactly like how Liberal are saying "We are not banning hunting rifles ,we are banning assualt style weapons, it has nothing to do with attacking canadian gun owners". Thanks. Now you know why Liberal wants to ban all semis without any data to backup the claim.

"Chinese nationals who are here studying or working are expected/pressures to report intelligence back to China. This is a fact." And then "This is my opinion and I did not submit a research paper so don’t need to source it. "

I am the Chinese national that went through PR and eventually became Canadian and CPC member, so does many many my friends who went through the same process. And somehow you are implying people like us are spies are just insane and indeed racist. You believed we were required to provide integellgence? WTF? The misinfomation and ignorance here is just insane. Since I am a conservative member and I used to be Chinese citizen years ago does that mean Convervative Party are now offcially compromised? lol

Thanks for showing us when you are emotional and biased, source ain't matter. This is bascially the Liberal's very logic when they Draft Bill C21. The only difference is you don't trust Chinese and Liberal don't trust gun owners.
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Chinese immigrants are a huge presence at my club. Good people. Essential to our firearms community in BC.
Talk to them. They understand what oppressive governments can do. Quite frankly, Chinese Canadians are one our of best hopes against loony white woke people. They’re too practical! They adhere to the Protestant work ethic more than most white folks do these days. We need more. I’d rather we get a bunch of hardworking Chinese dudes than more big govnt loving, pro-tax, lefty Euro-socialists…
 
Here's a thought. How about we drop this Chinese distraction, quit nitpicking and in-fighting, and focus on who the real enemy is (the Tyrant) and how best we can topple him?
 
Outlawpilots said:
Here's a thought. How about we drop this Chinese distraction, quit nitpicking and in-fighting, and focus on who the real enemy is (the Tyrant) and how best we can topple him?
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You Make too much sense, only focused people understand this kind of comment, liberals love it when topics get distracted and off topic watching opposition go down rabbit wholes and infight! They clasp their hands sit back and say....you see how they kill and eat each other.
 
misher said:
Don't trust any state including our own. Even the CPC party is just the best option rather than a government I'd really get behind. Harper did a lot of good but he wasn't perfect and his last 4 years were a disappointment.

One obvious example, back when COVID started no party pushed for border closures. If we had gone Fortress Canada at the start we wouldn't have urgently needed vaccines and a lot of Canadians would still be alive or healthier. Imagine if CVD was even more deadly, the fact is when there's a mysterious deadly virus spreading you don't leave all borders open without checks.

Btw if your a CPC supporter I think Chinese are the minority that is most behind the CPC. You don't leave a left wing nation because you support it and Chinese here are big shooting fans. Yes, mainlanders can be rude dicks or show off too much or refuse to learn the language but the ability to be a rude #### is exactly the freedom of speech we all support :D

Indo-Canadians are NDP while African-Canadians are usually Liberal I think?
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From what I understand, Indo-Canadians are generally more Liberal-leaning. I don't think Jagmeet has necessarily done too much to sway them to his party. Just look at how he performed in ridings with high Indo-Canadian populations (like Surrey, BC). Still lots and lots of red.

Chinese-Canadians are at the heart of things are most strongly aligned with the CPC except for the populist stuff. Especially their stance on COVID control which I believe did them in heavy Chinese ridings in 2021. I volunteered for the CPC in Richmond, BC last election. It was devastating. A 20% Liberal swing in a "safe-conservative" district and another 10% Liberal swing in a "likely-conservative" district, Richmond Centre and Steveston Richmond East respectively. Now they're both red.
 
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