Russian SKS45 long thread.

I don't see any refurb marks on yours, and it is in the original stock.

That last mark is an acceptance stamp.

Oh non-refurb? The guy at lever said they were all refurbs.

If it's non-refurb should I shoot it? Please help, curtton!

I'll try to take more pics of it's overall condition once I clean it up.
 
Oh non-refurb? The guy at lever said they were all refurbs.

If it's non-refurb should I shoot it? Please help, curtton!

I'll try to take more pics of it's overall condition once I clean it up.

there are very few non-refurb there so you may be lucky .

but you can shoot it if you want becos there are plenty of nicer IZH non-refurb out there .
 
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i only go there on monday and mike only works on a monday .[/Curtton QUOTE]

C, I stand corrected. Levers is open Monday - Sat. Was there this am to pick up SKS's purchased on Sat. Everybody, including "soup nazi" were in top PR form. Am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and continue to patronize the store next time I get that "itch" to add another to the armory.

Was looking closely at one SKS on display there that had neither the a type 2 (slanted) gas block or type 3 (curve) gas block. It was flat. What is that?
 
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'50 sks

at 199.50, it would be crazy not to deal:D



Rottboy, does that mean I can bring home the girls tonight?

After I fondle them, yes!!! Exchanged the '54 forced matched (CFC didn't effect any transfer yet) with a pristine '50 Lamin. Stock is not perfect, with the usual nicks and wear, but the action including trigger is the best of what I have. The bore looks almost new (chrome). My first Type 2 Gas block!!!
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blah, blah, blah, i'm an internet hero, blah, blah, blah...

There are two sides to every story.

It's not uncommon for milsurps transfers to get sent back for review. The registry will not recognize Cyrillic characters so the serial numbers are just the numeric portions. When a rifle with the serial ац123 comes up it can not tell the difference between it and аб123 so the transfer gets punted back for review. I watched half a dozen go through today and a couple of them did get delayed for review. Sometimes it's a couple of hours, other times it's a couple of days. Not a big deal.

These are 60+ year old $199 communist battle rifles. It's like buying a used frying pan in Value Village. Pick out a shiny looking one and move on. Lever Arms are selling dozens of these rifles every day to people who are just interested in getting a decent cheap rifle to shoot. The quest for silly little details should be reserved for activities like scrapbooking and quiltmaking. Get a couple of crates of cheap ammo and beat the crap out of it.
 
Sure thing bud's.
Stop pulling everyone's chain.:jerkit:
It seems to me that not everyone share's your idea of great customer service from lever arms. Also if you were to explain this exact statement that you mentioned in a non-confrontational way I probably would have had a much better experience. Considering it was my first experience ever dealing with this company and I was treated like a third world scum lord. Also just cuz a rifle is cheap doesn't mean that they are crap. I have seen alot of SKS's that actually look quite nice. But since "scrapbooking and quiltmaking" are not my fortay, I will buy one from a more reputable company that's has alot more going for it then bad service and average costs. Plus just to make you feel helpful to us in the firearms comunity. I will make sure to post some pic's on this site on what this crappy company can't provide and how much you pay for something has nothing to do with the way customers should be treated. So please find some one else to spew your B.S. on & thanx for coming out!:p
 
You would be amazed at how much the customer service has improved there since Mr. Lever sold the place.
I do not work there, but I was by earlier today and heard from multiple parties on how your transaction went down and your behavior differs quite a bit from the tale that you posted earlier.
 
It's not uncommon for milsurps transfers to get sent back for review. The registry will not recognize Cyrillic characters so the serial numbers are just the numeric portions. When a rifle with the serial ац123 comes up it can not tell the difference between it and аб123 so the transfer gets punted back for review. I watched half a dozen go through today and a couple of them did get delayed for review. Sometimes it's a couple of hours, other times it's a couple of days. Not a big deal.

sorry mike , you are wrong . CFC do register the cyrillic letters but only the recognizable letters in english, they do ignore the others.

in your example they would register it as a123.

i have over a dozen SKS45 which have the entire serial numbers registered.
 
sorry mike , you are wrong . CFC do register the cyrillic letters but only the recognizable letters in english, they do ignore the others.

in your example they would register it as a123.

i have over a dozen SKS45 which have the entire serial numbers registered.
A DOZEN? how many SKS do you have Currton?
 
sorry mike , you are wrong . CFC do register the cyrillic letters but only the recognizable letters in english, they do ignore the others.

in your example they would register it as a123.

i have over a dozen SKS45 which have the entire serial numbers registered.

And the example I just used, both of the rifles would come back as being a123 and the transfer would be sent in for review.
 
sorry mike , you are wrong . CFC do register the cyrillic letters but only the recognizable letters in english, they do ignore the others.

in your example they would register it as a123.

i have over a dozen SKS45 which have the entire serial numbers registered.

Do you mean that the serial numbers are made up of Cyrillic numerals or a combination of Cyrillic numerals and decimal numerals?

I'm not that familiar with what serial number system the Russians used during that period but I would think that these could be converted to an equivalent decimal number (what the data base understands).

I realize that such conversion could be confusing for anyone comparing the serial number on the gun to the one on the certificate. On the other hand, only using part of a serial number because the data base can't handle all Cyrillic characters is also subject to problems.

Cyrillic numerals

A - 1
B - 2
Г - 3
Д - 4
Є - 5
S - 6
З - 7
И - 8
Ѳ - 9
I - 10
K - 20
Л - 30
M - 40
H - 50
Ѯ - 60
O - 70
П - 80
Ч - 90
P - 100
C - 200
T - 300
Ѹ - 400
Ф - 500
X - 600
Ѱ - 700
Ѡ - 800
Ц - 900
 
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And the example I just used, both of the rifles would come back as being a123 and the transfer would be sent in for review.

im not disputing the review of a123, just disagreeing with your statement below that CFC only use numeric portions.

"a" in the above serial numers is also a cyrillic letter so CFC will use it cos they recognize it.

The registry will not recognize Cyrillic characters so the serial numbers are just the numeric portions.
 
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Do you mean that the serial numbers are made up of Cyrillic numerals or a combination of Cyrillic numerals and decimal numerals?

I'm not that familiar with what serial number system the Russians used during that period but I would think that these could be converted to an equivalent decimal number (what the data base understands).

I realize that such conversion could be confusing for anyone comparing the serial number on the gun to the one on the certificate. On the other hand, only using part of a serial number because the data base can't handle all cyrillic characters is also subject to problems.

no, at this point , there is no proof that there is a system of converting the cyrillic letters to numbers.

i researched into the conversion of cyrillic letters to cyrillic numbers to see it if they mean something, like a month or a year but came up empty.

i have two russian SKS with SN 400 apart but they were produced a few years apart.

the problem is the old russian recycle the SN every year so every year there will be a duplicate of SN. unfortunately it gets worst bcos they use cyrillic letters and some cyrillic letters are not recognize by CFC so dropping them will results in dozens of matching SN.

leverarms having more problems now bcos they are a late comer , IZH and Bell already taken the SN but the next IZH shipment may face the same problem unless they stamp an extra letter(s) like on some Bell which i do not like.

the US solved most of the problem by translating the cyrillic letters to english letters and then stamping a new set of english letters on the receiver.:puke:
 
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no, at this point , there is no proof that there is a system of converting the cyrillic letters to numbers.

i researched into the conversion of cyrillic letters to cyrillic numbers to see it if they mean something, like a month or a year but came up empty.

i have two russian SKS with SN 400 apart but they were produced a few years apart.

the problem is the old russian recycle the SN every year so every year there will be a duplicate of SN. unfortunately it gets worst bcos they use cyrillic letters and some cyrillic letters are not recognize by CFC so dropping them will results in dozens of matching SN.

leverarms having more problems now bcos they are a late comer , IZH and Bell already taken the SN but the next IZH shipment may face the same problem unless they stamp an extra letter(s) like on some Bell which i do not like.

the US solved most of the problem by translating the cyrillic letters to english letters and then stamping a new set of english letters on the receiver.:puke:

Very interesting - more to it than first realized.

Thanks,

Duke1
 
SIR say they are waiting for their SKS shipment, however their track record isn't that great. I saw the shipment that Home Hardware in Yorkton Saskatchewan, now has just put out on display. They are there now and some beutiful laminate stocks, these are the real Russian SKS's Sininov, Tula factory one's. $199.99 but well worth it. Over 110 in stock but going fast
 
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