I agree. I have no issue with people who choose to use deer drives to fill their tags as long as they take responsible shots and don't trespass. That being said I know that a lot of these guys would have a hard time filling their tags hunting by themselves.
Sad find today in the woods.
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I agree. I have no issue with people who choose to use deer drives to fill their tags as long as they take responsible shots and don't trespass. That being said I know that a lot of these guys would have a hard time filling their tags hunting by themselves.
What about using youre smarts for pushing them out of the square mile you just saw them in, standing in their own tracks?... just a question.
What about using youre smarts for pushing them out of the square mile you just saw them in, standing in their own tracks?... just a question.
I spend MONTHS scouting to find frequent tracks, not to mention rubs, scrapes, beds etc ... not just the tracks they make during hunting season when they are pushed...
Not criticizing the fact that pushing bush well requires on the spot scouting, but it is hardly the same amount of research and scouting time required for still hunting.... JMOP
How do you know they cant fill tags by themselves?... thats such a wrong assumption.
No probs brad. Im sure we all respect youre time in the field scouting, but for me after hunting so many years, scouting can be sumed up as very boring.
We hunt them where we see them.
Cant get any fresher scout sign than that... and very exciting when you know one of us is gonna kill what we just recently saw. Thats just Manitoba hunting. Very simple.
No probs brad. Im sure we all respect youre time in the field scouting, but for me after hunting so many years, scouting can be sumed up as very boring.
We hunt them where we see them.
Cant get any fresher scout sign than that... and very exciting when you know one of us is gonna kill what we just recently saw. Thats just Manitoba hunting. Very simple.
Yeah. I mean where you hunt definitely dictates your best strategy.... where I hunt the bush is thick.... my land is 400 acres... no small bush clumps beside open areas, nowhere to even post up for a drive...
In ontario, that usually means, in a situation like mine, if you are willing to put in time scouting and researching you have a crack at a big deer...
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No probs brad. Im sure we all respect youre time in the field scouting, but for me after hunting so many years, scouting can be sumed up as very boring.
We hunt them where we see them.
Cant get any fresher scout sign than that... and very exciting when you know one of us is gonna kill what we just recently saw. Thats just Manitoba hunting. Very simple.
Just to clarify that your method is southern Manitoba open-prairie, agricultural/grain land area hunting.
Lots of areas in MB where that doesn't work.
Not much of an assumption, I do deer drives when I do the rifle hunt up North. Some guys are good woodsmen and hunters while others would get lost in two seconds if they got off a blazed trail. Some have very little hunting ability other than to shoot what is driven towards them. For them this is the only way they could fill their tag, and some of them are good buddies of mine. Poor hunters sit in treestands as well, only they never fill their tags.
I know it's already been stated in this thread but what insults me is peoples first reaction to call doggers irresponsible or sloppy. once again already stated that there are irresponisble hunters of all methods, and responsible ones. If this is the 3rd deer that the OP has found as a result of this, well then yes this other gang is irresponsible. but to say that all drive hunters are irresponsible, is to say that a major portion of Ontario hunters are irresponsible. We hunt as a gang, together. if you sent every man in our gang (8-12 guys usually) to a different spot to still hunt, you would have the whole country pushed out walking to our stands. We hunt a block of land or two one day, then move to another the next so as not to pressure certain areas. A few days in you know where the does are bedding down, you know where the big buck is hangin around, you know where the deer are travelling etc. So you line your guys according to what you know. Most of my deer that i shot on the dogs were standing still or trotting cautiously. Just because the dogs are on them, doesn't mean they throw all instinct to the wind and fly through the woods like a mad cow (some do, but not often).
And as far as making bad shots (the whole point of this thread), If you don't have the shot, DON'T F*****G TAKE IT!!!!!!! And if you do by chance make a bad shot, which happens, have the decency and contact the landowner who owns the property that your gut or a** shot deer ran onto and let him know that you would like to go and track but would like his permission first. If that's to much work then WTF are you doing in the woods.
And as far as making bad shots (the whole point of this thread), If you don't have the shot, DON'T F*****G TAKE IT!!!!!!! And if you do by chance make a bad shot, which happens, have the decency and contact the landowner who owns the property that your gut or a** shot deer ran onto and let him know that you would like to go and track but would like his permission first. If that's to much work then WTF are you doing in the woods.
Few guys in our camp like that. If they hadn't been put on a watch, they probably would never have even seen a deer before let alone shot one. Good shots and responsible ethical hunters, just north is south and up is west to them
All this talk about pushing bush brings to mind the Hanson Buck.....which IIRC??? was taken on a Deer "drive" or "pushing bush"...?
How many on this board would pass on a shot at World Record Whitetail if he was running broadside @ 100 yards away........................................????
Be honest???
How many on this board would pass on a shot at World Record Whitetail if he was running broadside @ 100 yards away........................................????
Be honest???
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I would empty the mag on him then throw rocks at him until he was out of range lol
True...Did you know that Milo missed that buck on three seperate drives before connecting on the fourth?
How many on this board would pass on a shot at World Record Whitetail if he was running broadside @ 100 yards away........................................????
Be honest???
Hell, yes i would...
Not to mention that his first shot was a bad one and he had to spend hours trackng and almost gave up on him....
I think Milo got very lucky...Not only seeing the buck through four drives, but hitting it. Me thinks he had very poor shooting skills...
I recall one show where David Blanton missed on drive in Alberta....Even though the buck was close, and wasn't running very fast David still missed it with four shots... Some just can't do it!
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What an assinine statement or can you actually back that up with any kind of facts....I thought not!
...the guy said one out of thirteen was wounded and got away, even that is to many but a far cry from the 1 out of 2 figure you quoted
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What an assinine statement or can you actually back that up with any kind of facts....I thought not!
...the guy said one out of thirteen was wounded and got away, even that is to many but a far cry from the 1 out of 2 figure you quoted Sorry I think your abve statement smells a little
You spend months scouting rubs & scapes when most of the time bucks are just starting to get active a week or so before hunting season here in Ont
All this talk about pushing bush brings to mind the Hanson Buck.....which IIRC??? was taken on a Deer "drive" or "pushing bush"...?
How many on this board would pass on a shot at World Record Whitetail if he was running broadside @ 100 yards away........................................????
Be honest???
If the shot wasn't decent...sure..why not!
I'm to old to care about walking around camp beating my chest blowing about how good a hunter I am
Besides, our camp hunts approx 1,200 acres..good chance my 29 lb beagle will find him again & whip him into another frenzy
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What an assinine statement or can you actually back that up with any kind of facts....I thought not!
Actually, I never quoted a figure.
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Strangely enough today I was at my butchers and he was cutting an archery buck and my big guy. He found one old wound in mine and another 3 healed over bullet wounds (and parts of a powerbelt bullet) in the other buck.
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