Saskatchewan whitetail draw
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I'm surprised no one has made this correction yet.
This is for Non-Resident Canadians.
The way I hear it in the first year (2011) all who "apply" will get the permit to hunt in the one zone they apply for.
Then the Gov't will look at the numbers and if they find heaps of non-res. canadians are applying and hunting in a few zones (along the Alberta and Manitoba boarders) then they may put a max number of permits on those zones to encourage hunters to apply somewhere else and or just to reduce the numbers of non-res. canadians in those "crowded" zones.
I have only hunted deer in Sask. once. But I now know some land owners somewhat farther in from the pacific where I could hunt. I may apply there.
This is for Non-Resident Canadians.
The way I hear it in the first year (2011) all who "apply" will get the permit to hunt in the one zone they apply for.
Then the Gov't will look at the numbers and if they find heaps of non-res. canadians are applying and hunting in a few zones (along the Alberta and Manitoba boarders) then they may put a max number of permits on those zones to encourage hunters to apply somewhere else and or just to reduce the numbers of non-res. canadians in those "crowded" zones.
I have only hunted deer in Sask. once. But I now know some land owners somewhat farther in from the pacific where I could hunt. I may apply there.
There has been a problem with some out of province hunters shooting deer and leaving them when they realize that they weren't as large as they were hoping for. This will attempt to try to track down the problem children.
Let's get real here folks.
There are huge amounts of deer in Saskatchewan...giant deer with massive racks!
You just have to go a couple hundred miles north of Black Lake to find em
I can confirm this. (for those who don't know, Black Lake is in the very northern part of the province, nearly bordering the territories)
Let's get real here folks.
There are huge amounts of deer in Saskatchewan...giant deer with massive racks!
You just have to go a couple hundred miles north of Black Lake to find em
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN
- Location
- Central Sask
There is a big problem with some IN province hunters shooting deer and leaving them. Have been finding a lot of medium sized bucks left to waste in the past few years here. On heavily posted land. Giving a dozen guys the boot would be a slow season here. And when questioned, 95% of them are from the cities. Not saying all city hunters are citiots though. We have the odd one that shows up with a map in hand asking for permmsion and they usually get it. The only non res hunters we get around here, are for waterfowl and they are always polite and respectful. Unlike most of the resident boneheads we run into in deer season
I think ALL nonres hunters should be draw, and ALL Saskres hunters allowed no-limit sustainance hunting.
SERM issues me a Sustainance tag, and records date. I bring in head, get another tag, SERM records info and date, I bring in a head, etc... You can keep your freezer full with up to two deer. Can't give it, sell it, or trade it away. (You want to do that?? Get a Regular Tag)
with the few hunters left in Sask, we would not hurt the population one bit. The four deer left in this province would be killed in the first couple years and there would be no further risk of death from Deer collisions with cars!
Hey... if it saves even one life, it is worth it!
SERM issues me a Sustainance tag, and records date. I bring in head, get another tag, SERM records info and date, I bring in a head, etc... You can keep your freezer full with up to two deer. Can't give it, sell it, or trade it away. (You want to do that?? Get a Regular Tag)
with the few hunters left in Sask, we would not hurt the population one bit. The four deer left in this province would be killed in the first couple years and there would be no further risk of death from Deer collisions with cars!
Hey... if it saves even one life, it is worth it!
- Location
- Central Sask
I am not sure about all the zones in Sask but in the Southeast the winter is taking a heavy toll. I have never seen a winter kill with this many deer dying. I am starting to question if there should ne a non=resident season at all. On the weekend I counted 7 dead at the edge of town. A buddy of mine has cattle and he is taking up to six dead deer a day out of his stack yard. By the time they found his feed it was to late for them.
What he is describing is what has actually happened over the past few years to our mule deer. Unlimited number could be taken by any sask resident hunter willing to continue turning in heads and getting new tags. No draw no limit. "Earn a buck" they called it. Turn in 2 doe heads and go get a buck tag. Then do it again and again and again. As long as they had heads to test for CWD the provincial regulators were fine with it.
Landowners and most hunters I know were in a total uproar over it. SERM would not listen to us at the local public meeting we scheduled with them to get the facts. I asked the head of SERM what the ideal number of deer for our area was after he told us that the CWD positives we had were the result of overcrowding. His answer was "ZERO!" We all knew that this kind of hunting pressure would erase most of the mule deer and Yep! it happened.
I personally know of 2 guys shooting over 100 deer each in the first year of the "control program". Really, no lie! I also know landowners who had Christmas day repeatedly interrupted by hunters. This is after a long season of the same. Since the mulies have virtually disappeared here word is out and things have died down. The new policy is only to moniter the herd for CWD presence not eradicate. Translation: heads rolled at serm and the draw is finally back in place. This used to be one of the best trophy mule deer areas anywhere, and now you are hard pressed to find any mule at all. The worst wildlife mis management program I have ever seen or heard of.
SERM has made some pretty crappy decisions over the years. I remember when they took the antelope hunt off of draw and turned it wide open. In one year the herd was decimated and still isn't back to where it should be. They tried to blame it on coyotes eating all the young. I call BS.
The CWD herd reduction strategy was simply wrong. I hope this winter doesn't reduce the herds too much. On the positve side the people who's land I hunt on are reporting a good size herd still hanging around. Could be the oats they are feeding them that are making them happy. That place is north of black lake as well
The CWD herd reduction strategy was simply wrong. I hope this winter doesn't reduce the herds too much. On the positve side the people who's land I hunt on are reporting a good size herd still hanging around. Could be the oats they are feeding them that are making them happy. That place is north of black lake as well
- Location
- Central Sask
I totally agree that it was the stupidest decsion ever. But we were relentless in running all the disrespectfull slob hunters off our property and we still have a decent mulie population. But it was a full time job. But that guys post was all over the place, still cant see what he was getting at.
With this harsh winter I hope that it kills all of the CWD deer that are left in Saskatchewan and Alberta. I agree with you that the government mis-managed the deer herds. If healthy deer are dying from winter kill you would think that all CWD deer would be the first to go, but of course that won't make any sense to a government official and probably continue their useless program. Now for the Saskatchewan draw for Canadian-Residence, (I'm from Alberta) I hope that their is some fine print stating that the license fee "must"
be paid within one month after the draw, otherwise it will be cancelled. BTW, the licence fee should be $500.00. Now this should keep the "want a be" trophy hunters out of the province. I've hunted Saskatchewan whitetail since 1988 and only taken 6 animals to date. If people are going to hunt saskatchewan to bag a trophy then bag a trophy. I've witnessed and heard of Canadian-Residence shooting small bucks (between 100 to 130) on the last day to fill their tag. I'm sure that many of those bucks had potential to be true trophy bucks. The same applies with the Americans..............they as well shoot small bucks and that is from the first to last day of their hunt. I say up the license to $500.00 and pay within one month of being drawn.
The way the whitetail population in the southern portion of the province is, I would prefer if all "Trophy" tags were $500. Far too many hunters will take a 2.5-3.5 year old deer in the last week to fill the freezer, but refuse to shoot a doe.
I spent a few days on my break spotting for next year and wouldn't be surprised if the doe to buck ratio was near 20:1. Obviously I didn't see every buck that was out there but it's not overly difficult to pick them out even without horns. I wouldn't even cry if they shut down the either ### whitetail in SK for a couple of years.
I spent a few days on my break spotting for next year and wouldn't be surprised if the doe to buck ratio was near 20:1. Obviously I didn't see every buck that was out there but it's not overly difficult to pick them out even without horns. I wouldn't even cry if they shut down the either ### whitetail in SK for a couple of years.
So according to you, hunters should all be out looking for trophy bucks only? I hunt mainly for the meat, antlers are basically just a bonus. Big or small, to me, they're all trophies. I also hunt whitetails in saskatchewan. Not because I feel to need to shoot a bigger deer, but because I like to hunt with my best friend, who happens to live in sask.
Who are you to say that my hunting is "wrong" just because its not the same as your hunting? I don't go around bagging on the trophy hunters because I'm a meat hunter.
Now i don't have any problem with saskatchewan having a draw for non-residents, as a matter of fact I think it's a great idea. I also like your idea of paying within one month of being drawn(if not paid, the oppurtunity should go to the next person on the list). I don't agree with the $500 fee idea. Keep the fee reasonable enough for normal human beings to afford. Not only that, I guarantee that more small deer would get shot with that fee. If I was to pay $500 for a tag I'd be making damn sure that I shot something by the last day.
