Scope bit twice today:) what scope has best eye relief?

Your quite the negative one aren't you? I'll admit, yes I'm young in my career, and I harbor no delusion I know one tenth of what others on here do, but I'm only suggestion and inquiring, not telling him what to do. I have seen a problem similar to this one once, so I'm just trying to help, he can tell me to jump off a bridge should he chose to, and I'm cool with that. I was going to suggest he talk to people in the smiting section anyway, and I still think the mounting could be lower.

Also gunsmithing is about ten thousands of an inch, not millimeters...

Hey no worries, thanks for the input , I put lower rings on , there's a pic on page 5. My problem is , I have to stretch my neck ahead and move my scope back, to its furthest possible position , to get a full eye box. By adding more to the stock this would only get more difficult .
 
SuperBrad, that Video works, I need to remove an 1 1/4 from my stock, and that will allow me way better head control( no stretching). And allow me to move my scope ahead 1 inch. Oh and bad lop, scope bite, or nice toque , nothing gets in the way of my groups:)

Just some thought to consider Brian...... You could go with a longer eye relief scope and make up most of that.... But since you want a new scope for it anyways, I would suggest doing both..... Get something with more eye relief (pretty much all higher priced offerings have that).... And get the stock you want..... Even some of the lower priced ones....
 
3-1/2" is plenty if you know how to mount a scope and how to position yourself properly. If you don't know how to mount a scope or how to hold a rifle, then the issue isn't the eye relief. Myself and many other people shoot unbraked rifles in chamberings such as the RUM cartridges, with no issues using scopes with 3-1/2" of eye relief.
We measured eye relief on this particular scope last night, it was 3 inches.
As to installing the scope , I put the rings on loosely and attached to the mount. I then had to move the scope and rings to the rear of the rail as far as possible and stretch my head forward to get a full eye box . I've owned a Browning 7mm before and shot my buddies 300 WM and never got scope bite . LOP is my problem.
 
Most people I deal with complain about comfort, one shoots f class, but he's a unique individual. Most people I deal with are hunters, and plinkers. To them comfort is everything, to me it's results, but the customer is always right! Most of the time :3
 
See how your face is angled with your shoulders. See if you can square up your face to the target a bit to gain some advantage. Get your right eye closer with out pushing your nose further forward.... :)
Try placing the butt pad closer to the center of your chest so that the recoil goes in to your center of mass more and deflects less through the shoulder.
Placing the butt more to the inside makes it more comfortable to "square up" your face too.

It's hard to tell from a photo but it looks like you are too low on the stock and your eye is below the center of the scope tube.
Crank up the power on the scope and assume a nice comfortable position on the stock then open your eyes and use the "shadow ring" on the scope to see if your eye is centered.

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I figure because my LOP is too long thereby causing me to lean over , while sitting at the bench. Also I may have to get a higher bipod so I'm not leaning over.
 
Most people I deal with complain about comfort, one shoots f class, but he's a unique individual. Most people I deal with are hunters, and plinkers. To them comfort is everything, to me it's results, but the customer is always right! Most of the time :3

Lol.... I bet..... Working with guns is fun, and would make a great career if you can make a go of it...... I bet you get a ton of stupid requests......

Like the vid says, I watched my boys learn to shoot.... They did all kinds of dumb things before I let them actually shoot......

Sometimes being a good shooter means you need to relearn techniques and muscle memory, and eliminate bad habits..... I bet I bcould be a hard sell to the customer that "wants what he wants"..... But if it was my business, I would give advice and then take their money if they were adamant also........
 
Try a sandbag, an MTM sight n see or an adjustable bipod.......

Do you have a short neck?.... That can sometimes be part of the problem...... I suffer from odd proportions myself.... On the bright side, I can handle recoil easily, on the downside it's hard to find pants.... Lol..... 6 foot tall with 30 inch inseam.....
 
Lol.... I bet..... Working with guns is fun, and would make a great career if you can make a go of it...... I bet you get a ton of stupid requests......

Like the vid says, I watched my boys learn to shoot.... They did all kinds of dumb things before I let them actually shoot......

Sometimes being a good shooter means you need to relearn techniques and muscle memory, and eliminate bad habits..... I bet I bcould be a hard sell to the customer that "wants what he wants"..... But if it was my business, I would give advice and then take their money if they were adamant also........

I try to keep my customers happy, and stop them from wasting money, but I can't tell them what to do, nore would I listen if I were in there shose.

And i agree with Can-Down. I aso think your sitting a touch low, but if your comfortable, it's your choice. You could get an ammo saddle with a pad on it. I think mine was about 25 bucks.
 
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Man there are a lot of #### answere here.

First off, dont settle for a little black ring in your scope. If your spending a grand you wont have that issue.All manufactures post there eye relief. leupold, zeiss, swarovski's are in your price range and are very good scopes. If your buying high end dont get a lame bushnell or nikon. The only reson they arestill in business is because people cheap out on scopes.
 
I try to keep my customers happy, and stop them from wasting money, but I can't tell them what to do, nore would I listen if I were in there shose.

And i agree with Can-Down. I aso think your sitting a touch low, but if your comfortable, it's your choice. You could get an ammo saddle with a pad on it. I think mine was about 25 bucks.
I'm sitting low because the rings are to low , it's all I had to work with, I'll be getting a good mount.
 
Try a sandbag, an MTM sight n see or an adjustable bipod.......

Do you have a short neck?.... That can sometimes be part of the problem...... I suffer from odd proportions myself.... On the bright side, I can handle recoil easily, on the downside it's hard to find pants.... Lol..... 6 foot tall with 30 inch inseam.....
o have an adjustable bipod, I'll try that on its highest setting. I think the bench at the range has there chairs set to high . You have to lean over to look through your scope. I'll try a couple of things when I get a new stock( I was planning to anyway). And a new scope( I was planning on that also).
 
According to that Boyd's video, I should use a stock with a 13" LOP. That means none of my rifles fit me properly.....

Different stock designs must affect this number. Say my Henry golden boy 22, with a lot of drop for using iron sights, vs my savage 338 lapua with HS precision stock which is designed for scope use. Mind you, I don't shoot the Henry prone or the 338 offhand either.
 
Brian, do me a favour and measure from the crease of your elbow with it bent 90deg, to the pad of your bent trigger finger.

I'll do the same and we'll compare.

I was really surprised when adding to the LOP with the slip on pad straightened me up.
 
I'm sitting low because the rings are to low , it's all I had to work with, I'll be getting a good mount.

My point was it looks like you are lower to the center of your eye then the center of the scope.
Hard to tell for sure but it looks like the scope is lined up with your eyelid.
 
Man there are a lot of #### answere here.

First off, dont settle for a little black ring in your scope. If your spending a grand you wont have that issue.All manufactures post there eye relief. leupold, zeiss, swarovski's are in your price range and are very good scopes. If your buying high end dont get a lame bushnell or nikon. The only reson they arestill in business is because people cheap out on scopes.

It's not really about "settling", more about using what you've got and understanding what's going on.
The little black ring can be useful for centering your eye at max power and longer ranges. Large field of view is nice but not really needed in many shooting situations.
 
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