Shorten PAL Approval Times

Well from the phone convo I had today, I think the person you spoke with may have been a bit of an air-head.

Or it could very well be the other way around, and the person I spoke with is mis-informed, but she seemed knowledgable and aware that my 28 days had passed, and that all that is left is the officer to review it.

As far as the screening process... I want their assessments to be accurate as well. But there is overkill. If someone is LEGALLY trying to aquire firearms (Take a course/test, jump through all the hoops created to aquire the licence), chances are they're not looking to do bad things.
If someone wants a gun, they will find a way. Understandable that some applications are denied, and some people lie on their forms, but in 28 days of having the application, I feel that is ample time to determine the individuals application outcome.

All of the other provinces seem to have the system in great working order. However, Ontario seems they need to throw a curve ball into it to fudge things up for the sake of being unique. I have only lived in the province for just over a year, but my hatred of it is piling up. I sincerely hope one day my spouse can overcome her need to be so close to her family and I can leave this terrible, terrible province.
 
Wow - 'didn't realize I'd upset some people here. In light of recent events, I simply wanted to air my concern over making sure due-diligence is done. That takes time.

That said, I want people to do their jobs both efficiently for sure.

It's just common sense, really. I'm entitled to my opinion. The other extreme is the U.S., which is a sad state of affairs gun-law wise.
 
GuelphGuy said:
I'm entitled to my opinion.
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You are definitely entitled to your opinion. I think that intelligent discussion is very valuable. Of course, not all firearms owners will agree on what the laws should be.

I'm just telling you what I think about the way you express your opinions here. Since you are new, I think it is best to express potentially-less-well-received opinions softly at first. Otherwise you'll just upset people.

And thank you for the reply. It shows that you weren't just trying to be a troll.
 
koesdibyo said:
Well from the phone convo I had today, I think the person you spoke with may have been a bit of an air-head.

Or it could very well be the other way around, and the person I spoke with is mis-informed, but she seemed knowledgable and aware that my 28 days had passed, and that all that is left is the officer to review it.

As far as the screening process... I want their assessments to be accurate as well. But there is overkill. If someone is LEGALLY trying to aquire firearms (Take a course/test, jump through all the hoops created to aquire the licence), chances are they're not looking to do bad things.
If someone wants a gun, they will find a way. Understandable that some applications are denied, and some people lie on their forms, but in 28 days of having the application, I feel that is ample time to determine the individuals application outcome.

All of the other provinces seem to have the system in great working order. However, Ontario seems they need to throw a curve ball into it to fudge things up for the sake of being unique. I have only lived in the province for just over a year, but my hatred of it is piling up. I sincerely hope one day my spouse can overcome her need to be so close to her family and I can leave this terrible, terrible province.
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I was transfered to the CFO office Supervisor. She is the one i spoke to. She was very nice, but the information about my waiting period to me was way off. Unless their policy is now to make everyone wait the full 45 days. But if some are getting their's approved right away and others have to wait..... i have a problem with that. What can be done?? Nothing.
 
I sent mine on 16th of may

Showed up on their site on the 5th of june only
Been waiting since then (69 days now)

I called today and they told me it was now in the provincial hands...

She told me currently the average time is around 90 days, still waiting...
 
Herrick said:
I sent mine on 16th of may

Showed up on their site on the 5th of june only
Been waiting since then (69 days now)

I called today and they told me it was now in the provincial hands...

She told me currently the average time is around 90 days, still waiting...
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Where are you located?
 
my buddy and I sent our test results back together, I haverecieved 1st set from ontario firearms and mailed it away my app is on line and ive done my phone interview and currently waiting for my witnesses to do the same.

my app was recieved on june 29 and ive already done my interview. however my buddy has not even recieved his first set of paperwork from firearms ontario. I think he should call and inquire about his status but he thinks its because he owes the govt monies. I have never heard of this but is this possable.

Could they be holding his app hostage for his owed monies?
 
padawan said:
This is VERY frustrating.
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Agreed Padawan!!!

On a positive note my RPAL application showed up online today as complete and should be recieved within 2 weeks. :rockOn: w:h:

My local sargent of arms if you will lol. Local approval CFO for north eastern ontario actually was nice enough to call me this morning and let me know of the approval. Most likely cause of the 15 calls i made to them he wanted to make sure i didn't pester them again heh heh......:D

Only 106 days from my date of mailing.:confused: Now to start online window shopping again, which i gave up a month ago after i realized how far off the actual wait time of 45 days this process actually takes in ontario. :bangHead:

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padawan said:
Lucky you don't live in the People's Republic of Ontario.
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cheers boys be patient, after all it is the govt they will get to it at their own speed
 
Chipdouglas said:
Agreed Padawan!!!

On a positive note my RPAL application showed up online today as complete and should be recieved within 2 weeks. :rockOn: w:h:

My local sargent of arms if you will lol. Local approval CFO for north eastern ontario actually was nice enough to call me this morning and let me know of the approval. Most likely cause of the 15 calls i made to them he wanted to make sure i didn't pester them again heh heh......:D

Only 106 days from my date of mailing.:confused: Now to start online window shopping again, which i gave up a month ago after i realized how far off the actual wait time of 45 days this process actually takes in ontario. :bangHead:

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cheers boys be patient, after all it is the govt they will get to it at their own speed
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The only reason i'm so miffed, is it seems like with all the recent Handgun related crimes in and around the GTA lately.....the Ontario CFO has magically tripped a switch that delays everyone's app's for approval.

Just my .02 cents
 
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Strange everyone is having so much difficulty in Ontario.

Once my application was approved (post interviews), and sent to CFO, I waited a few days, called CFO office, I left a message, received a call a few hours later, they had already checked the system before calling me back, while I was on the phone they confirmed it was there and the background check was clear, then approved it while I was on the phone, and lastly advised me I'd have it in the mail in about 1-2wks. I received it in about a week and that was the end of that.

I did not get into discussions / debates about 28d cycles, et al,, anytime I called RCMP or CFO regarding the application, I was very polite and they simply processed to the next step, and that was it.

UPDATE: RPAL, not just PAL.
 
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dontshow said:
You are definitely entitled to your opinion. I think that intelligent discussion is very valuable. Of course, not all firearms owners will agree on what the laws should be.

I'm just telling you what I think about the way you express your opinions here. Since you are new, I think it is best to express potentially-less-well-received opinions softly at first. Otherwise you'll just upset people.

And thank you for the reply. It shows that you weren't just trying to be a troll.
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Thanks for understanding my intent. I guess that in my case, I'll never own a gun personally, so though I'm excited to work with a particular industry, I'm not doing any window shopping, lol. That must be a whole other level of excitement.
 
padawan said:
I was transfered to the CFO office Supervisor. She is the one i spoke to. She was very nice, but the information about my waiting period to me was way off. Unless their policy is now to make everyone wait the full 45 days. But if some are getting their's approved right away and others have to wait..... i have a problem with that. What can be done?? Nothing.
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Was it Cst. Labelle at Waterloo Regional? She is off until Monday for summer holidays. That's where the delay is (if you're dealing with her). Nothing more or less. It's just timing and where you're from, I guess. That's been my experience, anyway. They received my app on June 18th, so today is 38 days.
 
koesdibyo said:
Well from the phone convo I had today, I think the person you spoke with may have been a bit of an air-head.

Or it could very well be the other way around, and the person I spoke with is mis-informed, but she seemed knowledgable and aware that my 28 days had passed, and that all that is left is the officer to review it.

As far as the screening process... I want their assessments to be accurate as well. But there is overkill. If someone is LEGALLY trying to aquire firearms (Take a course/test, jump through all the hoops created to aquire the licence), chances are they're not looking to do bad things.
If someone wants a gun, they will find a way. Understandable that some applications are denied, and some people lie on their forms, but in 28 days of having the application, I feel that is ample time to determine the individuals application outcome.

All of the other provinces seem to have the system in great working order. However, Ontario seems they need to throw a curve ball into it to fudge things up for the sake of being unique. I have only lived in the province for just over a year, but my hatred of it is piling up. I sincerely hope one day my spouse can overcome her need to be so close to her family and I can leave this terrible, terrible province.
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You raise some great points! I agree with you on most of them. Born and raised in the ON, so I don't know any better, though I miss the mountains out west. ;)
 
GuelphGuy said:
Was it Cst. Labelle at Waterloo Regional? She is off until Monday for summer holidays. That's where the delay is (if you're dealing with her). Nothing more or less. It's just timing and where you're from, I guess. That's been my experience, anyway. They received my app on June 18th, so today is 38 days.
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No, it was the CFO supervisor. Which is Orillia OPP.

Cst. Labelle is a Regional Firearms officer.
 
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padawan said:
35 Days !!!!ovrec lol, i know its hasn't been that long, but its done and sitting on someone's desk and they won't look at it because they say my 28 days aren't up yet......which is wrong.
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Ive had at least 5 AMAZING deals on the exact rifles I want go down the drain because of it sitting on the desk!

And once I get it, I hope I can at least get my PAL number so I can purchase a couple rifles, so that the shipping gets on the way right away, so that I dont have to wait too long on it being in transit... its always with the waiting
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:bangHead: :bangHead: :bangHead:
 
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