Should i use my unused sks or not?

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North of 7 said:
I can see you wont let this go, how does this have any impact on you? Do you have any or plan to get any of these rifles? I dont give a rats azz what you say, i know what i have, as verified by actual experts in the industry; not importers, exporters, distributors, sellers, or some rando internet dude from PA? Especially one that appears to have to no hand in the matter, aside from arrogantly waltzing onto this thread claiming to be the subject matter expert, but when asked for credentials its crickets... ya bud real cool. Stay off of google and wikipedia. Here's a fact for you, you dont have all the facts and need to carry on because the op found his answer so take your troll mentality back to PA.
This thread should have been locked before your azz got here.
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Just pointing out the verifiable facts. Never intended to hurt your feelings.

I made a simple objective observation in my reply to the OP.

Namely: Claims of "unfired" "un-issued", "non-refurbed", and "all original" for surplus firearms that spent 40 to 75 years in a foreign country are virutally un-proveable. As such, I recommended that the OP shoot his surplus rifle.

You made the choice to make a debate out of it. And, in the process, you only helped me make my point.

Thanks.
 
Boris Badinov said:
Just pointing out the verifiable facts. Never intended to hurt your feelings.

I made a simple objective observation in my reply to the OP.

Namely: Claims of "unfired" "un-issued", "non-refurbed", and "all original" for surplus firearms that spent 40 to 75 years in a foreign country are virutally un-proveable. As such, I recommended that the OP shoot his surplus rifle.

You made the choice to make a debate out of it. And, in the process, you only helped me make my point.

Thanks.
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All it takes is a friendly talk about it like hey fyi kind of deal. But the claims of knowledge and expertise coupled with a condescending arrogant attitude, as noted by more than just me, is how this ended up where it did. No, my feelings arent hurt, i just know to avoid anybody sporting the name boris out of PA lol. If you rebuttled with, hey im a curator at xyz museum that specializes in this field or something with any credibility, maybe people would consider what you claim are "facts", but the attitude you displayed doesnt help anyone on "Canadian Gun Nutz".

North
 
To think, Chinese fraudsters collected tens of thousands of beat up sks's (or were the made new? Boris please tell me), then cleverly did stuff to them to make them look just like new but made in the 60's, re-machining, grinding as necessary.
Right down to the stocks being matching and stamped. Were those new stocks Boris, or somehow refinished to only appear new to the untrained eye?

Then, they sold them to a unsuspecting (or complicit? Boris?) Canadian international arms dealer at ridiculously low prices but as original and unissued, but were really just clever fakes.
Canadians in droves of course bought these guns and literally held these "Un-issued" guns in their hands and have owned them for a decade and never noticed all the sneaky doings that really went on.
Yes, the shipping in boxes vs wooden crates cinched his argument and it is clear he know exactly what he's talking about.

Lucky for us, Boris possesses vast sks knowledge, and also has super powers in interpreting out of focus photos, random bits of information and deriving detailed conclusions.
Congratulations, you are a csi grade wizard.

And thank you for derailing a thread about should I shoot my sks or not.


And now for everyone's amusement, a little humor:

 
Larry, its called a forum for a reason. The "unfired" claim is in the OP. So ts ridiculous to get offended if the claim is later referenced in a reply.

As it stands, terms like "unfired", "all original", "unissued" and "non refurb" are only subjective valuations. They are assessments of a surplus firearm's current condition with the goal of determining monetary value. Those who levy such claims assume specific knowledge of the history for which there is no actual proof. That's just a fact.

Unfired, all original, never issued, and non reurb are great stories. But in the end what we end up paying for is present condition.

I have no interest in mollycoddling anyone's paticular emotional attachment to a given surplus firearm or their suppositions of it's history. If I have to choose between two stories, 100% of the time I listen to.the one being told by the artifact.

So unless someone can provide 40-75 years of pre-import documentation, all claims of originality are unprovable and only evaluations of current monetary value.

Oh, and they are also fun stories:


As I said initially: Shoot the surplus carbines. I guarantee that after you shoot it, if you work diligently, and with an acute attention to detail you can clean it
well enough to return it "unfired" condition.
 
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frankduf said:
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Elvis has left the building, folks. Six weeks ago. The OP had his question answered within 36 minutes of his first post.

What do we care about a cheap Chinese knock off? Hoping our $200 gun would be worth 5 times in another 50 yrs? Chinese history?

Once again, China has outsmarted North Americans with the old “divide and conquer” trick. And smoke and mirrors too. In these six weeks arguing the intricacies of cosmoline, wooden crates and which prison camp factory built them, like SKSs were valuable archeological artifacts Westerners stole from the pyramids, how many more square kilometres have the Chinese reclaimed in their stolen Spratleys South China Sea base? While you’re at it, have the cosmoline carbon dated.

O boy, we love our cheap SKSs. Walmart should sell them alongside their other Chinese goods.

If we don’t wake up soon and stop bickering, we might be serving noodles to our Chinese masters in Beijing (under work visas of course), or laying railroad tracks to Wuhan and no, we can’t use their 5G phones either. Yes the world does go around.
 
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easyrider604 said:
Elvis has left the building, folks. Six weeks ago. The OP had his question answered within 36 minutes of his first post.

What do we care about a cheap Chinese knock off? Hoping our $200 gun would be worth 5 times in another 50 yrs? Chinese history?

Once again, China has outsmarted North Americans with the old “divide and conquer” trick. And smoke and mirrors too. In these six weeks arguing the intricacies of cosmoline, wooden crates and which prison camp factory built them, like SKSs were valuable archeological artifacts Westerners stole from the pyramids, how many more square kilometres have the Chinese reclaimed in their stolen Spratleys South China Sea base? While you’re at it, have the cosmoline carbon dated.

O boy, we love our cheap SKSs. Walmart should sell them alongside their other Chinese goods.

If we don’t wake up soon and stop bickering, we might be serving noodles to our Chinese masters in Beijing (under work visas of course), or laying railroad tracks to Wuhan and no, we can’t use their 5G phones either. Yes the world does go around.
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Ummmm are you sure about that? I read where there are a group of scholars south of us who are pretty certain the earth is flat making "Going Around" virtually impossible. Perhaps you surely meant "..does go across". No need to edit your post. This thread has no ending.

Take Care

Bob
 
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