Sig550 Vs Xcr

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Hello I am new here and was just wondering what people thought of the SIG 550 i.e. does it have any problems in the winter with freezing or anything and how does it handle the dirt if it was going to get abused which would never happen. Also if you where to conduct a cost benefit analysis of the Robinson arms XCR to it which one would would you choose and why thanks. :)
 
well wolverine lists a model called the sig 550 and its non restricted so I guess whatever that is, is the one I would be buying potentially if someone would tell me if its reliable like the xcr
 
The sig 550 is what the Swiss military uses as there infantry rifle. I would buy the PE90 over the robinson arms rifle myself as its a very accurate rifle and fairly easy to maintain. You can shoot the PE90 accurately with iron sight out past 300 yards on a calm day.
 
Mark_P said:
The sig 550 is what the Swiss military uses as there infantry rifle. I would buy the PE90 over the robinson arms rifle myself as its a very accurate rifle and fairly easy to maintain. You can shoot the PE90 accurately with iron sight out past 300 yards on a calm day.
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so I guess the pe90 is basically the same as the 550 and if the swiss use it then it is probably ok for here in Canada cause their terrain is quite similar from what I understand well except probably for the bitter cold durability wise anyways.
 
Its the civilian verson of the sig 550. I wouldn't worry about the firearm freezing in Canada unless you plan o leaving it outside in the winter time for long period if time. Even then with the right lubrication you shouldn't have to worry about it freezing.
 
Swiss arms PE90 has a few things that better than the XCR.

Swiss Arms PE90 Advantages
- More accurate
- Proven design (reliability)
- Sweet Trigger
- Fit and Finish

XCR Advantages
-Ergonomics
-Cost (1800-2000 vs 2800-3000)
-Full length top rail and quad rail system (no need to buy scope mounts and such)
-Reliability? (Very new design but based on the design should be extremely reliable once broken in)
-Ability to use AR mags which are plentiful and cheap + 10 round pistol mags (could also be considered a disavantage due to AR mags reliability)
-Able to change to a variety of calibers in a matter of minutes (7.62x39,5.56x45, 6.8SPC, 6.5 Grendel)
 
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I hear a lot of smack about the XCR, any good reviews out there?I am looking for a good SHTF rifle in 5.56 and I am pretty much looking at these two given the AR situation.
 
There's slot of good reviews for the xcr. Arfcom has a bunch and maybe try the xcr forums. It's a great rifle. Not perfect but pretty damn good
 
I love mine to death. If you buy one brand new, tighten the ejector screws and lube it then your gtg. If you get an older used model (Like I did ) do the same and check for pierced primers. If you have them, you need to get your firing pin hole in the bolt face chamfered. I did it myself in 2 min with a dremel tool.

The gun is 100% reliable now. Smooth and accurate. Don't forget on the XCR plus side that we have the adjustable gas valve as well. It is nice to be able to modify your gas piston settings to go along with your ammo. Wolf is super low pressure, Win white box is medium and AE is high pressure. You don't want to eject your brass too hard or you may dent them. (Bad for reloading).

The ergonomics are better than any black rifle out there and the build quality is excellent. Great machined aluminum and steel. They had some QA issues to start, but they seem to be pretty much fixed. Easiest disassembly and cleaning too.

Mine is 100% reliable and have yet to have a failure to feed, fire or eject. Go get yourself one while the US still lets you.

As for the PE90 being more accurate. I would like to see the proof of that. Handload to handload and commercial to commercial ammo. What sources do you quote, or is it just more anecdotal " Its more expensive so it must be more accurate.
 
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Why is it when we get a 'this vs. that' thread, fanboys of said crappy system that has zero hope in hell of competing at the same level of the 'vs' system come out of the woodwork to come to their poorly chosen purchase's defence?

I've played with an XCR and can confirm without having to put rounds through it that it is an utter piece of sh!t.


Drawing comparisons to the Swiss PE-90 or whatever you want to call it, is like comparing a New Mercedes to a Chevy Cavalier - They do both get you from point 'A' to point 'B' but that is where it ends.:rolleyes:
 
drvrage said:
I love mine to death. If you buy one brand new, tighten the ejector screws and lube it then your gtg. If you get an older used model (Like I did ) do the same and check for pierced primers. If you have them, you need to get your firing pin hole in the bolt face chamfered. I did it myself in 2 min with a dremel tool.

The gun is 100% reliable now. Smooth and accurate. Don't forget on the XCR plus side that we have the adjustable gas valve as well. It is nice to be able to modify your gas piston settings to go along with your ammo. Wolf is super low pressure, Win white box is medium and AE is high pressure. You don't want to eject your brass too hard or you may dent them. (Bad for reloading).

The ergonomics are better than any black rifle out there and the build quality is excellent. Great machined aluminum and steel. They had some QA issues to start, but they seem to be pretty much fixed. Easiest disassembly and cleaning too.

Mine is 100% reliable and have yet to have a failure to feed, fire or eject. Go get yourself one while the US still lets you.

As for the PE90 being more accurate. I would like to see the proof of that. Handload to handload and commercial to commercial ammo. What sources do you quote, or is it just more anecdotal " Its more expensive so it must be more accurate.
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All Swiss Arms rifles are factory tested and must meet a 300m 10 shot grouping of 11cm or less with GP90 ammo. Thus while there may be some XCRs that shoot better ( many in fact), there is no guarantee. SAN does provide this guarantee.

I have handled and fired both rifles and the SAN product is miles better in fit, finish and smoothness of operation. My experience is that the accuracy of both was comparable for service rifle type shooting, but the SAN rifles had a definite advantage on reliability and durability.
 
beltfed said:
Why is it when we get a 'this vs. that' thread, fanboys of said crappy system that has zero hope in hell of competing at the same level of the 'vs' system come out of the woodwork to come to their poorly chosen purchase's defence?

I've played with an XCR and can confirm without having to put rounds through it that it is an utter piece of sh!t.

Drawing comparisons to the Swiss PE-90 or whatever you want to call it, is like comparing a New Mercedes to a Chevy Cavalier - They do both get you from point 'A' to point 'B' but that is where it ends.:rolleyes:
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Ignorance is bliss. I wouldn't say any rifle is a piece without shooting it. That is the same kind statement from people who said Glocks were a piece cause they are made of polymer. I am sure if they actually fired them they would sing a different tune. As for calling someone a fanboy. I would be safe to assume you are a Swiss arms fanboy by your comments. Having shot both rifles I made my statements and I will stand by the pros for each system. Its really a personal preference in most cases. And I will agree with redleg the fit and finish is a little better on the Swiss arms but you do get what you pay for.
 
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Ignorance is bliss. I wouldn't say any rifle is a piece without shooting it. That is the same kind statement from people who said Glocks were a piece cause they are made of polymer. I am sure if they actually fired them they would sing a different tune. As for calling someone a fanboy. I would be safe to assume you are a Swiss arms fanboy by your comments. Having shot both rifles I made my statements and I will stand by the pros for each system. Its really a personal preference in most cases. And I will agree with redleg the fit and finish is a little better on the Swiss arms but you do get what you pay for.
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We are not quite in agreement, I said it was miles better. But you are right, you do get what you pay for.
 
Obviously there are different levels of what we see and expect out of a new rifle. Additionally, there is enough negative personal experience out there with the XCRs to draw a reasonable conclusion to what you are really getting from one. If you doubt any of this, look to the previous Robarms system they marketed.
The fact that I think the XCR is a failure hardly makes me a fanboy of the SAN guns.
However, I would question the opinion of anyone who thinks the XCR has a reliability and ergonomics advantage over the Sig.
 
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