SKS and corrosive ammo question

philhut said:
Simple method for corrosive in warm weather.... or cold if you like frostbite

Before packing your gear squirting water down your barrel

Take in garage (requires a garage, sorry apartment dwellers )

Disasemble

Throw small parts in bucket of water (or hose)

Use water hose on barrel (or large bucket, apartment dwellers that hate their landlords can use the shower/tub)

Towel/Air dry parts thoroughly (Air Compressor, recommended. No nicer way to meet your neighbors)

Oil part's (yes oil your parts)

Assemble gun

Patch solvent down barrel then a oil patch done.



If your shooting corrosive on a fancy new model gun see if there as tough as your Russians?
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Wow, might as well shower with your rifle then to keep it clean, lol.
All you need is patch of Щ which is soapy water out of bottle below. Pass it through the bore and gas tube. Then dry patch. Repeat if necessary.
Then from same bottle below take patch of H which is any oily compound like 10w30 and pass it through all gas affected areas bore and gas tube. Wipe all parts down and reassemble the rifle. Done.
Soviet soldier had 15 min to clean his rifle at the end of the day and sergeant would time them. You do it often enough and you can do it in 10 min.
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Mix 1 part ballistiol to 10 parts water, spray the rifle down after use and leave till you have time to clean it (days or even weks later). The water part of the solution dissolves the salts and ballistol leaves it oiled once water evaporates.
 
EL34/6L6 said:
I recommend having both on hand.
One day you may want to methodically practice groups or test long range proficiency, thus only shooting 20-40 rounds. So NC or a higher quality commercial round is good here.

Most days, like with myself, I just go trigger happy with the SKS and shoot 200-300+ rounds. This is were corrosive comes in. That's slot of rounds in a relatively short period so I'm going want to clean that gun ASAP regardless.
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This is what I always suggest as well. If I am bringing a friend, shooting a few rounds, maybe sighting in a rifle and the sks is secondary, or even know I won't have a lot of time to immediately clean it when I get home, I bring the non corrosive.

If I've shot it a few times and it needs a good cleaning any way, or I am putting a lot of rounds through it that day and know I have lots of time for a good cleaning, i'll bring some corrosive and do a good thorough cleaning when I get home.
 
v-king said:
Mix 1 part ballistiol to 10 parts water, spray the rifle down after use and leave till you have time to clean it (days or even weks later). The water part of the solution dissolves the salts and ballistol leaves it oiled once water evaporates.
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I shoot solely corrosive ammo in my 3 SKS's (2 Russian and 1 Chinese) and 2 Mosins. I don't use any water at all for mixing with Ballistol to make the whole process faster. After each shooting session I just spray Ballistol liberally all over the SKS/Mosin including inside the receiver, bolt, gas tube, barrel bore etc. Then I can leave it for cleaning when I have time to do it. After all, Ballistol was formulated in 1904 for the German Imperial Army to clean their weaponry which at that time used SOLELY corrosive ammunition of all sorts. Fact of the matter is that I clean my guns usually a few days after shooting with corrosives. There is not even a speck of rust on my guns
 
05RAV said:
I shoot solely corrosive ammo in my 3 SKS's (2 Russian and 1 Chinese) and 2 Mosins. I don't use any water at all for mixing with Ballistol to make the whole process faster. After each shooting session I just spray Ballistol liberally all over the SKS/Mosin including inside the receiver, bolt, gas tube, barrel bore etc. Then I can leave it for cleaning when I have time to do it. After all, Ballistol was formulated in 1904 for the German Imperial Army to clean their weaponry which at that time used SOLELY corrosive ammunition of all sorts. Fact of the matter is that I clean my guns usually a few days after shooting with corrosives. There is not even a speck of rust on my guns
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Yeah , it works. There is a video where Ballistol rep explains the chemical composition and how it gets rid of corrosive salts. Al
 
SteelCap said:
I've read shooting 5 to 10 rounds of non-corrosive at the ends helps. I have not tried it though.
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I don't see how that will make any difference. It might blow some salt from the barrel but bolt and rest of internals will still stay covered in that stuff. From my personal experience I found that SKS is less affected by rust than SVT. I can wait 2-3 days before cleaning SKS and it will still be rust free but SVT that was shot on the same day will have lots of rust around piston/regulator area. Maybe it has something to do with quality of steel or ammo.
 
I've never had any big issues with rust after shooting corrosive ammo. One time I left my rifle for over 2 weeks before I got around to cleaning it and all that had happened was a tiny bit of rust buildup on the gas piston.. barrel was fine, everything else was fine.. Was I lucky?
 
I clean my SKS at the end of the day once I've made it back home. Strip it apart and clean with only G96. Reassemble and it's ready for the next range trip.
 
AaronW18 said:
I've never had any big issues with rust after shooting corrosive ammo. One time I left my rifle for over 2 weeks before I got around to cleaning it and all that had happened was a tiny bit of rust buildup on the gas piston.. barrel was fine, everything else was fine.. Was I lucky?
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Yes, you were likely lucky, or your ammo was not too corrosive... The air is quite dry here (AB) compared to many other places. I would not try that on the Wet Coast (a.k.a. BC), or in Ontario or Quebec in the middle of a summer heat wave when the air is quite muggy. Your results may not turn out so good then.
 
Ballistol will NOT remove corrosive salt by itself; it must be emulsified with water, per the manufacturer's recommendation:

http://ballistol.com/faqs/

Water does the actual work of dissolving the salt, while the Ballistol removes more fouling (compared to just water) and leaves behind an oily film to inhibit corrosion.

Young's 303 is another similar type of product that may be emulsified in water to clean up after shooting corrosive ammunition.

You don't have to do a detail cleaning every time you shoot. Flushing the bore and gas system with water and oiling lightly afterwards is sufficient.
 
Schit, I had an sks I didn't care about and shot 200+ rounds of corrosive through it one day, didn't clean it for months. It had a solid layer of rust all over it but once I got it all off the thing shot like new- didn't look good since I scrubbed most of the bluing off though. Now that they're becoming harder and harder to find I'll pay more attention to my new all numbers matching one but your damn right I'll keep shooting corrosive out of it. All I do to clean is sweets 7.62 solvent everything, wipe clean, hoppes bore solvent down the tube then hoppes oil on everything after.
 
i shoot corrosive throw my sks, cz858 and even my xcr-l and all get clean after when i get back to home , all get strip and throw in the sink and i pour some boiling water from a kettle on them and in the barrel/gaz system and then do a regular cleaning. as simple as that and they are rust free, the windex things is just ineffective and expensive
 
tjhaile said:
Ballistol will NOT remove corrosive salt by itself; it must be emulsified with water, per the manufacturer's recommendation:

http://ballistol.com/faqs/


DO I NEED TO MIX BALLISTOL WITH WATER?
No. For most applications, straight Ballistol should be used.

I've never ever mixed Ballistol with water and never have any rust on my SKS's and Mosins. See my post #24. Water with Ballistol is NOT needed to neutralize corrosive salts. Fact of the matter is that by mixing Ballistol with water you save some money because less Ballistol is used eventually. However, for me water in guns is an anathema. The only case I use water for dissolving burnt powder residues is black powder. In this case I just remove barrel from my Lyman Trade Rifle and rinse it with lukewarm water. I would never pour water into receiver/action and other internal parts. Just me.
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Ok folks. Let's get this straight. Salts can not be neutralized. Nothing there to be neutralized. Neutralized from what to what? Gerrrrrrrrrr.

Salts can be dissolved....big difference. According to science, the best overall liquid to dissolve salt is water.
 
The question shouldn't be how long you can get away with not cleaning your SKS, the question should be how quickly you can get home and clean your SKS. One round fired or twenty, it does not matter, if you don't clean it asap you shouldn't be surprised when your rifle starts to turn into a barnacle. All you need is hot water and some kind of gun oil to use as a rust preventative for the dried parts.

Ten cleaning cycles later and my rifle is still in factory condition.
 
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