SKS need help , please

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I hate to say this (not really), but some of you guys may want to listen more and bork bork less. Also, the presumption that the US didn't import Russians in the same numbers etc as CA is well.... woefully ignorant.

Hey, there, stranger.

But, still, they really are welcome to check out the research dedicated info available at sks-files.com

I've eaten more than my fair share of crow because if what the research revealed. But I guarantee that my understanding of sks evolution is better for it.
 
I joined sks-files a couple years ago and have learned a lot. I have also posted several of my carbines on their forum. They have always given their honest opinion and have given proof of their findings. I will honestly say that I value their opinion. There are years of fact finding on their website. I live in Alberta.
 
Another nice REFURB^^^

TELLTALE, GIVEAWAY INDICATIONS OF REFURBISHMENT:

1) Tula star on the stock. As 20 years of research has shown DEFINITIVELY that the Tula star was omitted entirely from stocks 1956 onward. It's a pre-1956 stock or a Canadian mod.

2) Only 2 visible stamps on the left crossbolt with a third stamp that is barely visible indicating lite sanding and refinish.

3) Nearly undetectable annealing stripe on the receiver cover indicating rebluing and refurbishment.

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4) Just below the serial number on the stock, there are the remnants of a previous serial number indicating modification or replacement during refurb.



The last two rifles aren't refurbs . they are all matching and perfect examples . Refurbs usually have all inspection stamps sanded off and non matching mags. the Russians started to put the laminated stocks on the sks rifles in 1955. but you could still get some with hardwood stocks from 1955 on .
 
The last two rifles aren't refurbs . they are all matching and perfect examples . Refurbs usually have all inspection stamps sanded off and non matching mags. the Russians started to put the laminated stocks on the sks rifles in 1955. but you could still get some with hardwood stocks from 1955 on .
That's the thing though.

Each rifle bears multiple indicators of refurbishment-- already detailed by me.

What would help prove or disprove this is:

Photos of all of the serials.
HD photo of the receiver cover.
And, well HD fotos of every square inch of the rifles.

It's highly suspect that anyone would be so abjectly opposed to performing this very simple task.

It smacks of willful ignorance.
 
Boris, Horilkas rifle is a non refurb. These late rifles have very little consistency and don’t fall within the norm of regular SKS rifles.

They are late rifles made of parts left over in many cases.
 
Another nice REFURB^^^

TELLTALE, GIVEAWAY INDICATIONS OF REFURBISHMENT:

1) Tula star on the stock. As 20 years of research has shown DEFINITIVELY that the Tula star was omitted entirely from stocks 1956 onward. It's a pre-1956 stock or a Canadian mod.

2) Only 2 visible stamps on the left crossbolt with a third stamp that is barely visible indicating lite sanding and refinish.

3) Nearly undetectable annealing stripe on the receiver cover indicating rebluing and refurbishment.

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4) Just below the serial number on the stock, there are the remnants of a previous serial number indicating modification or replacement during refurb.

Why would Canadian dealers stamp stars on rifle stocks? Btw, I’ve personally opened MANY crates of SKS and other Soviet rifles and I’ve taken out many “late series” SKS rifles with multiple configurations.

Just because the Star is there doesn’t mean it’s a refurb. Where on earth are you getting this info?
 
That's the thing though.

Each rifle bears multiple indicators of refurbishment-- already detailed by me.

What would help prove or disprove this is:

Photos of all of the serials.
HD photo of the receiver cover.
And, well HD fotos of every square inch of the rifles.

It's highly suspect that anyone would be so abjectly opposed to performing this very simple task.

It smacks of willful ignorance.


Please put the bag of glue down for heavens sake . I've done years of my own research . and sure someone is going to take high def photos of their rifles to appease you ? get real .
 
Another nice REFURB^^^

TELLTALE, GIVEAWAY INDICATIONS OF REFURBISHMENT:

1) Tula star on the stock. As 20 years of research has shown DEFINITIVELY that the Tula star was omitted entirely from stocks 1956 onward. It's a pre-1956 stock or a Canadian mod.

2) Only 2 visible stamps on the left crossbolt with a third stamp that is barely visible indicating lite sanding and refinish.

3) Nearly undetectable annealing stripe on the receiver cover indicating rebluing and refurbishment.

EDIT:
4) Just below the serial number on the stock, there are the remnants of a previous serial number indicating modification or replacement during refurb.

This “nearly undetectable annealing stripe” is found on many non refurbished rifles.

It was applied before the serial numbers were added, ask me how I know?

Because the white halos from displaced metal revealing the bare surface are visible on the serial numbers - indicating it could NOT possibly have been reblued or heat treated after the fact. I have many of these rifles for reference.
 
To fellow US collectors: I'm not an SKS collector to contribute. I'm one of the few Canadians that don't have SKS in collection. Had some of them for trade, studied. I'm waiting for my 1945 in 7.62x41. I won't settle even on 1948.
I can't spoil, but let's wait until the end of year (keeping my fingers crossed) and you will have tons of new information, really cool stuff you never heard before. We'll talk then, hopefully you'll have guts to acknowledge you were wrong. Meanwhile I would recommend to get some info on firearm manufacturing practices in USSR by reading Yuschenko and Chumak books. That would explain you how long it could take to get rid of already manufactured parts and specifically stocks. Especially if you have a limited run. It's not my goal to educate and to prove you that letter series production was limited, compared to full run of earlier years. If you don't know that - your problem, not mine and we really have nothing to discuss because it's the key for understanding factory original letter series.
 
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I'm guessing it's inconceivable that a rework facility can receive new/old stock stocks and use them. The QC stamps around the crossbolt pertain to the stock itself, not the metal components housed within it.
 
I'm guessing it's inconceivable that a rework facility can receive new/old stock stocks and use them. The QC stamps around the crossbolt pertain to the stock itself, not the metal components housed within it.

So what in your opinion would constitute truly original stock to the rifle? :) Having same font on both laminated and hardwood stocks in "И"-series is not enough? Even when this font is way different from fonts used by GRAU arsenals responsible for refurbishing?
 
This “nearly undetectable annealing stripe” is found on many non refurbished rifles.

It was applied before the serial numbers were added, ask me how I know?

Because the white halos from displaced metal revealing the bare surface are visible on the serial numbers - indicating it could NOT possibly have been reblued or heat treated after the fact. I have many of these rifles for reference.

He actually implied that annealing stripe on rifle I posted was barely visible thus it was re-blued. There's no disagreement there.
 
I don't believe the rifle was reblued. I am however perplexed as to why people still believe that if a serial matches the receiver it MUST be factory original to the rifle. Just how many fonts are there on 45s? I'm guessing its also inconceivable that a rework facility would dare use the same font?
 
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