Smith and Wesson M&P VS Glock

M&P

  • Smith and Wesson M&P

    Votes: 271 51.5%

  • Glock

    Votes: 255 48.5%
  • Total voters
    526
M&p

Found the M&P ergonomics far superior to the "blocky" Glock. Also thought it might be easier to get S&W parts and such a little easier since they're made in USA. WRONG. Don't get me started on S&W customer service. Pistol has run very well as long as I do my part. Eats everything I shove in it, except some experimental "soft" loads I made up and tried. Ordered a stippled grip from M&P.com and really like the positive handle you get on the gun with it. Just need a fibre-optic front site and a little trigger work, and it'll be perfect.
 
I personally like the M&P, better support on the chamber, nicer trigger, nicer sights, better looking, adjustable and more comfortable grip. Requires you to check the chamber to disassemble. An all round nice gun and a great deal for the price.

That being said I think the G19 is a great pistol as well. I think the Glock trigger safety is marginal better than the M&P for preventing a ND, but I believe both trigger safety designs are flawed.
 
yyyyy said:
As an experienced shooter, what did you feel was different in your hands?
The only issue I have encountered is that for the last year and some I have shot right handed exclusively and in all classes. For some reason when shooting right, I ride the slide stop a bit. Left was never a problem.

Since the two pistols are similar, I won't make my usual comments, however I did catch a good sig somewhere that said"

I will buy my guns based on "what feels nice" when they start making a grip that feels like a C cup.
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When shooting, the hump in the Glock grip is uncomforatble and does not fit into my hand. No other reason. Try gripping a CZ or Tanfoglio the grips on those two guns feel more like a firm breast than a C cup. You may end up buying one or the other. Personally I prefer flesh as opposed to fabric but to each his own.:D

I also preferred the M&P grip over the Glock. I know the Tacticool guys consider ignoring pain as a sign of their testerone levels but personally I don't need the aggrivation of a poor grip design to deal with, while I am shooting and for me the Glock grip has a lot of problems and a poor design for the mitts at the end on my elbows.

Take Care

Bob
 
I guess what I am asking, not criticizing, was could you articulate how that "uncomfortableness" affected the mechanics of your grip perhaps?
 
yyyyy said:
I guess what I am asking, not criticizing, was could you articulate how that "uncomfortableness" affected the mechanics of your grip perhaps?
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Sure, the hump hits the heel of my palm and is uncomfortable. It is kinda like sitting on a chair with a tack on it. Sure you can adjust the way you sit so you don't spear your a$$ but I prefer not to have to do that. Nor am I terribly interested in a long discertation on how I am not holding the gun correctly and should do it this way or that way. What works for me with the guns I like is just fine for me.

What some of the Glock apologists don't seem to understand is the gun is not for everybody. Some like the grip others don't. Live with it.

The gun is a good choice for LEO's and does very well in action shooting competitions in the hands of extremely skilled shooters. I am neither a LEO or in the "Extremely Skilled"* shooter category so I find for me, there are better guns out there. for what I do with my pistols. That is just one reason why there are other gun manufacturers out there.

Take Care

Bob
*I know of no Canadian shooter in this category either so I don't feel particularly lonely not being in the top ten or so of action shooters in the world.
 
I haven't shot my Glock 19 yet so I can't comment on it's grip's effect on my shooting yet. I point high with it as over the years I tend to naturally point with guns with less raked grip angles.

Regarding 'grip fit', it's not really about comfort. It's about does it increase your ability to get a smooth trigger pull as well has controlling recoil. On my HK P2000 I shoot best with the small insert. In some ways the hand is a little cramped for space. I have to either shoot thumb straight or thumb down (Ayoob crush grip) or else my trigger finger hits the thumb. In that way it's less comfortable than the Medium insert...which is less comfortable in terms of the hump but perfect for spacing my thumbs. On the range I shoot better (more accurately and more accurately with speed) with the small insert. Yes the small insert is a 'bit' more comfortable but then so is the medium one in other aspects of the grip. All that really is irrelevant. Try the grip that improves your performance the most and stick with that one!!!!

And yes if I shoot better with my new Glock then it becomes my new favorite gun, it really is that simple in my book.

Glock has made some evolutionary changes. Trigger is nicer than 20 years ago...less mushy. The little indent for the thumb does make the grip a little better to reach the trigger...I have small hands so a smaller grip does improve my efficiency on some guns.
 
TDC said:
Bob,
Quick question. Did you find 9mm Glocks uncomfortable or other calibres as well?

TDC
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Guys it is the hump in the grip that makes it very uncimfortable compared to say a CZ/Tanfoglio or HIgh Power.

Sorry, just does. It is not caliber specific. TDC please read my response to yyyyy.

Build a Glock with a CZ grip and you might hve a buyer....well CZ now makes a Phantom so maybe not.

Take Care

Bob
 
Maybe I have little tiny dwarf thumbs or something but I couldn't reach any of the controls on my glock. Compared to my other pistol at the time, a P99, the glock had all the ergonomics of a brick. Sold it, got the M&P, and have never looked back.
 
cablemonkey said:
Maybe I have little tiny dwarf thumbs or something but I couldn't reach any of the controls on my glock. Compared to my other pistol at the time, a P99, the glock had all the ergonomics of a brick. Sold it, got the M&P, and have never looked back.
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The only control you need is the mag release. Accessing the release can be accomplished by either moving your hand(destroying your firing grip) or by using your support hand thumb(this is for right handed shooters, lefties use their trigger finger). The slide LOCK is not the primary method of releasing the slide. Cycling the slide is a guaranteed method for loading your pistol, any pistol.

Bob,
I checked the whole thread, I didn't see where you indicated calibre?

TDC
 
I was dead set on a glock, now seeing the lower price of the m&p9 and the good reviews, I have a tough choice to make.
 
Check frontier the m&p9 is listed as $40 cheaper then the glock 17.
That's not much, thought I seen a bigger difference, somewheres.
 
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