Smokin deals on Grand Power 9mm's/.22's and range reports
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Had the same problem. I put mine back in the gun safe still apart. Gave it a try the next day and got it. As others have posted you don't need to hit the takedown tabs for reassembly. Once it sits straight then push down for the click. I made sure the barrel was forward as shown in the video. Was very relieved after getting the pistol together again.
The K100 mk12 fits my hand perfect, looks great, has that rotating barrel design and an excellent trigger. As much of a learning curve as the reassembly seems to be, it's worth it. Mine is sitting beside a M&P9 and a Walther PPQ. It doesn't look out of place. I compared it to my CZ75 stainless. Overall quality is better on the GP. The trigger I'd crisper/lighter and no internal tool marks. Probably the best value pistol purchase I've made. Previously the M&P range kit during Reliables stand outside in -10 all night sale last year was the best price wise (not counting damp sub 0 and outside all night).
Hopefully I'm as impressed shooting it. Which ammo do you guys find is the most accurate?
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Too bad I missed out on this...
I get and understand that the President doesn't have time to hang with us.... besides how many reps from Grand Power do we need?
You are here and as long as Grand Power is willing to answer your questions and you are willing to forward them to us it's really not necessary for other Grand Power employees to chime in.
That said I have some questions for Grand Power or their Canadian rep.
When did the "new" ones start using double recoil springs? Boris on the grand power forum that you moderate says there are different colored springs for different power .22lr's and that they are used in combination. I don't see that with my new to me MK 12 and there is no mention of it in the instruction manual. Were these spring packs added to improve function? Are the models that Dlask just sold compatible?
Also if you do get a straight answer about the spec on the rail and why they changed it I'd be interested.
I'm not really sure which guns they were discussing but it sounds like all the Newer then new ones might have a different recoil spring arrangement.
I think it was Boris (A moderator at the GrandPower forum that Canuck also moderates) who also said that the X trim actually has a heavier slide then the simple K22 which is mostly open and that the basic K22 would function better with milder loads.....? Seems counter intuitive that the target model would be less inclined to function with target ammo but that's the way I read it.....
Hopefully with all the .22's that Dlask just sold out there we will get some interesting feedback and figure out what they like and what they don't!
I think it was Boris (A moderator at the GrandPower forum that Canuck also moderates) who also said that the X trim actually has a heavier slide then the simple K22 which is mostly open and that the basic K22 would function better with milder loads.....? Seems counter intuitive that the target model would be less inclined to function with target ammo but that's the way I read it.....
Hopefully with all the .22's that Dlask just sold out there we will get some interesting feedback and figure out what they like and what they don't!
I have the same question on the spare spring that came in the box with my K22 X-Trim. It's a stronger spring, so I can see switching to it if I was going to shoot some higher velocity ammo like Mini-Mags, but can't see using them both at the same time. I believe the K22 X-trims we just got from Dlask are slightly different than the new ones. On the new ones, there's a cutout milled out along the top of the slide, starting just behind the front sight, and it also comes with the wide safeties. Did they switch to a "double recoil spring" with this version?
For the different colored springs - Boris is talking about what comes with the 9mm X-Calibur. Not sure about the other K100's, but both my X-Calibur's came with the two extra springs: a black spring, and a red colored spring made from flat wire. The extra black spring being for weaker/subsonic ammo and the red one for hotter ammo.
For the different colored springs - Boris is talking about what comes with the 9mm X-Calibur. Not sure about the other K100's, but both my X-Calibur's came with the two extra springs: a black spring, and a red colored spring made from flat wire. The extra black spring being for weaker/subsonic ammo and the red one for hotter ammo.
I bought my K22 XTrim from Dlask last Dec and it came with two springs. One in the gun and one in the box. Can't remember which one it came with installed.
If there is a new set that will make this ultra-picky gun work with more ammo, I'd like to get it please. Just let me know which channel to go through to provide my shipping info.
If there is a new set that will make this ultra-picky gun work with more ammo, I'd like to get it please. Just let me know which channel to go through to provide my shipping info.
Thanks I had gathered early on that the dlask guns were without the extra back straps but the different recoil spring setups and changes is news.
I'm assuming the changes were not made out of boredom and likely had something to do with reliability.
Do you know much about the previous generation .22's that many in this thread have recently purchased?
I see you asked for some feedback on the other forum about ammo choices but it seems like there are not a lot of people on that forum and Boris does most of the answering of questions.
Any chance Boris can drop by CGN for a visit...
At this point I'd love to read a summary from someone in the know at Grand Power on the Evollution and workings of the different .22's
Do the guns we just bought have a reputation for being fussy?
So other than Hitzy, who judging from the last dozen posts appears to have a rather awkward personal vendetta against grand power...
Start shooting them and tell me what you guys think.
I don't think there's a better stock DA/SA trigger out there under a thousand bucks. Ergo's are about the same as a CZ, which is arguable top notch already. Quality is about the same which is fine. The firing experience (Muzzle flip/recoil etc.) is superior on a GP.
I'm primarily talking about the 9mm. I am pretty much under the impression that any .22lr pistol that isn't a revolver or have the looks of a space age ray gun is unreliable, so I don't even bother.
Start shooting them and tell me what you guys think.
I don't think there's a better stock DA/SA trigger out there under a thousand bucks. Ergo's are about the same as a CZ, which is arguable top notch already. Quality is about the same which is fine. The firing experience (Muzzle flip/recoil etc.) is superior on a GP.
I'm primarily talking about the 9mm. I am pretty much under the impression that any .22lr pistol that isn't a revolver or have the looks of a space age ray gun is unreliable, so I don't even bother.
I got one on the way.....I'm sure it's a fine gun, but the best gun under $1000? Dunno...guess we will see when it gets here.
My take is they have been around for over a decade in N/A, and they still really haven't taken off, and its had several design changes already, it's only sold successfully when its been fire sales, and they are on the 3rd or 4th distributor for Canada as the previous ones have not sold enough guns to keep Jaro happy. If the gun is as great as you think it is, they should be more popular here and in the USA. I think the mag not fitting the gun issue is a pretty big QC issue....and just addressing it on the mk12 says they didn't care much about it.
I'm just being realistic and I don't buy into a lot of the smoke....if it's a good gun I have no problem stating that. Hopefully I'll get it in next week.
Fair enough.
It's about shooting it though. The takedown is annoying, reassembly even more annoying. I've had a mags baseplate blow up on me after dropping it maybe 2-3 times and after looking at more mags Im sketchy on magazine QC. I've never had a mag fitting issue though so I can't address that.
But all that aside, when shooting it I can't say much else is quite as nice in its range, and that's what I'm inquiring with others now. For example, most DA hammer triggers are absurdly long and heavy, not on the GP. The single action reset is so short its almost magical how easy follow up shots are. If there was one thing I would say is the best about this gun it's the trigger. The recoil and flip is different in a positive way handled by the rotating barrel system so actually shooting it feels smoother. Basically SHOOTING it seems to be where it shines, at least for me. Does it balance out with things like the takedown/reassembly? To me its a fair trade.
I actually look forward to what you think when you get it, as you would start with a more cynical view to begin with.
Like I said before, I started out a big CZ fan. I now pretty much go with my GP's for auto's. I also prefer hammer fired guns for what it's worth.
I bought my K22 XTrim from Dlask last Dec and it came with two springs. One in the gun and one in the box. Can't remember which one it came with installed.
If there is a new set that will make this ultra-picky gun work with more ammo, I'd like to get it please. Just let me know which channel to go through to provide my shipping info.
Looks like your springs are different diameters? Mine are the same but I wouldn't be surprised if the springs have been mixed up in my case because the gun was sold earlier in the year and then returned according to the information that somebody allready filled into the manual.... Dlask does not remember why it was returned?
The second spring in my X-trim case was the same as the one in the gun but an 1/8" longer.
The K22s had a bigger spring that looks like your big spring, this spring is so big that it does not rest on the stop at the end of the guide rod like the smaller springs do but instead rides over it and down a ways. Nice to have a few options but I do notice with the larger spring there is alot of spring vibration going through the gun when dry firing....sort of sounds like a springy striker fire pistol.
The K22 K-Trim I just got had the smaller diameter spring mounted, and the larger diameter spring in the box. I'm just waiting for my registration certificates to come in before I take my new toys to the range. Will see then which springs work with which ammo.
Can-down. Be careful with dry firing your K22s. Mine feels like it has a firing pin stop, but the firing pin is just a tiny bit (~.010) too long and actually does impact the barrel. I've got quite a few .22's of different makes and models - some have a firing pin stop and are safe to dry fire, some are not. Going to put this one in the "do not dry fire" category for now.
Can-down. Be careful with dry firing your K22s. Mine feels like it has a firing pin stop, but the firing pin is just a tiny bit (~.010) too long and actually does impact the barrel. I've got quite a few .22's of different makes and models - some have a firing pin stop and are safe to dry fire, some are not. Going to put this one in the "do not dry fire" category for now.
