So why are none of us Hunters talking about the 30 x 30 Intiative?
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Ardent
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MiG, I fear you’re missing the point.
You realize I threw chum in the conspiracy water to see how fast folks would run with a click bait phrase of complete garbage without any evidence behind it to corroborate, right? It turns out pretty ####ing fast.
You realize I threw chum in the conspiracy water to see how fast folks would run with a click bait phrase of complete garbage without any evidence behind it to corroborate, right? It turns out pretty ####ing fast.
Thanks for posting the link hadEnough. I skimmed through it and didn’t find it overly threatening, Reads like any miss universe contestants speech.
There’s a list of 17 goals starting with world hunger, poverty and human rights etc. The first mention of money is goal #13, take urgent action to combat climate change. A hundred billion a year. I’m okay with that if we fix the preceding dozen goals first.
I’m a pretty average guy, not a deep or original thinker. What we’re sick to death of is the expropriation of our money on account of global warming er climate change er climate emergency et Al.
As far as setting aside wild areas I’m all for it but I don’t trust that it will be done right. The two examples that come to mind are national parks and First Nation reserves, I can’t hunt either.
There’s a list of 17 goals starting with world hunger, poverty and human rights etc. The first mention of money is goal #13, take urgent action to combat climate change. A hundred billion a year. I’m okay with that if we fix the preceding dozen goals first.
I’m a pretty average guy, not a deep or original thinker. What we’re sick to death of is the expropriation of our money on account of global warming er climate change er climate emergency et Al.
As far as setting aside wild areas I’m all for it but I don’t trust that it will be done right. The two examples that come to mind are national parks and First Nation reserves, I can’t hunt either.
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Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Now that I’m incorporated into the conspiracy theories, I can confirm from the inside it’s as ridiculous as it sounds from the outside.
Protecting wilderness is good for hunters, good for the planet. That’s all there is to this amazing thread in the end. It’s been a ride.
Protecting wilderness is good for hunters, good for the planet. That’s all there is to this amazing thread in the end. It’s been a ride.
I agree with preserving habitat and wilderness and wildlife. Something we need to do. No one can disagree. So we're all for the same goal
This thread is great.
Speaking of great, I had a gentleman explain to me today how the fires in PG and FSJ right now are extremely volatile due to the chem trails permeating the foliage. MIG25 do you have any good data on this subject?
Speaking of great, I had a gentleman explain to me today how the fires in PG and FSJ right now are extremely volatile due to the chem trails permeating the foliage. MIG25 do you have any good data on this subject?
Anyone who has spent a night in the Desert knows clouds hold the heat in. Whether Contrails, Water Vapour being a combustion product, are on a scale to do the same is questionable. My position is Man is too puny to influence the weather/climate on a Continental or Global Scale.
^back in Chetwynd eh Slimmy?
I once worked with a guy who believed that the fires (2018 or 2017 fire season) were "caused by Trudeau". All a part of a scheme to force everyone to move to a city (and you know, presumably eat bugs or whatever).
BUM asked a few pages ago about beetle kill. I'd add to the comments by our resident fire fighting heroes; a surplus of "fuel" from beetle kill is a major contributor to runaway fires. So is poor forest management; a lack of spacing leading to dead trees and "monocrops" of pine and other conifers with no belts of deciduous hydrophilic trees like poplars is disastrous when fires grow large (especially pertinent in the boreal like NE BC and NW AB right now).
A prime cause of all this fuel in montane fir/spruce, pine predominant, sub boreal spruce etc is our current and relatively novel policy of fire suppression. As the yahoos have noted, fire can create very biodiversity habitats. The ecosystems of most of North America having been managed with seasonal burning for over ten thousand years.
By suppressing fires we end up with lots of fuel, poor biodiversity and a lack of natural regeneration for pyrophilic species like lodgepoles. Poorly spaced monocrops are planted, average temperatures rise significantly, and you end up with a situation like we are seeing in Tumbler Ridge right now.
Yes, fires can and are sometimes caused by arson. Firefighting is solid good paying seasonal employment in desperate remote communities. This is neither here nor there in terms of how large fires become and how early in the year these fires catch.
Not to mention spruce and fir trees have pests of their own. With ranges expanding further north all the time.
I flew over the area around the nation lakes north of Fort St James a lot around 7-8 years ago. Serious beetle kill had been through the area.
Idyllic northern BC, moose standing on the shores of oxbow streams that would be called rivers anywhere else, 10 lb "dolly vardens" with every cast, you know the deal.
Oh, and if you flew a few minutes to north kms and kms of area that looked like a moonscape with the biggest free range lumber yard of clear cut beetle infested trees you have ever seen. This is what all of BC looks like if this #### continues
When it's 35 degrees in may/June in the cariboo chilcotin and even hotter south of there and the forests are full of fuel there's bound to be some bad results.
There I go, slamming my #### in the drawer
I once worked with a guy who believed that the fires (2018 or 2017 fire season) were "caused by Trudeau". All a part of a scheme to force everyone to move to a city (and you know, presumably eat bugs or whatever).
BUM asked a few pages ago about beetle kill. I'd add to the comments by our resident fire fighting heroes; a surplus of "fuel" from beetle kill is a major contributor to runaway fires. So is poor forest management; a lack of spacing leading to dead trees and "monocrops" of pine and other conifers with no belts of deciduous hydrophilic trees like poplars is disastrous when fires grow large (especially pertinent in the boreal like NE BC and NW AB right now).
A prime cause of all this fuel in montane fir/spruce, pine predominant, sub boreal spruce etc is our current and relatively novel policy of fire suppression. As the yahoos have noted, fire can create very biodiversity habitats. The ecosystems of most of North America having been managed with seasonal burning for over ten thousand years.
By suppressing fires we end up with lots of fuel, poor biodiversity and a lack of natural regeneration for pyrophilic species like lodgepoles. Poorly spaced monocrops are planted, average temperatures rise significantly, and you end up with a situation like we are seeing in Tumbler Ridge right now.
Yes, fires can and are sometimes caused by arson. Firefighting is solid good paying seasonal employment in desperate remote communities. This is neither here nor there in terms of how large fires become and how early in the year these fires catch.
Not to mention spruce and fir trees have pests of their own. With ranges expanding further north all the time.
I flew over the area around the nation lakes north of Fort St James a lot around 7-8 years ago. Serious beetle kill had been through the area.
Idyllic northern BC, moose standing on the shores of oxbow streams that would be called rivers anywhere else, 10 lb "dolly vardens" with every cast, you know the deal.
Oh, and if you flew a few minutes to north kms and kms of area that looked like a moonscape with the biggest free range lumber yard of clear cut beetle infested trees you have ever seen. This is what all of BC looks like if this #### continues
When it's 35 degrees in may/June in the cariboo chilcotin and even hotter south of there and the forests are full of fuel there's bound to be some bad results.
There I go, slamming my #### in the drawer
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All I know is I look forward to hunting in my electric truck . Once the fires burn down all the forest there will be tons of habitat, I hear moose love it after a burn.
Plus it will be so easy to get around that you can sell me one of yout Montanas and finally start hunting with a heavy barrel Remington 700
Plus it will be so easy to get around that you can sell me one of yout Montanas and finally start hunting with a heavy barrel Remington 700
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Those animals thrive on transitions between habitats and require shelter as well as forage. Mixed forest types are needed for healthy populations. Between fires and forestry management they may become a rarity
When people call BC a banana Republic with bigger bananas the similarities don't stop at relying on one resource. Our natural resource management and for profit crown forestry concern that runs afoul of regulations constantly would be right at home in a graft ridden tin pot dictatorship
When people call BC a banana Republic with bigger bananas the similarities don't stop at relying on one resource. Our natural resource management and for profit crown forestry concern that runs afoul of regulations constantly would be right at home in a graft ridden tin pot dictatorship
