Sold a 10/22, buyer says it's too inaccurate- RESOVLED! Post 88

I might offer another thought here. Some people tend to look outward instead of inward when there's a problem and blame the gun. Good example is my nephew, love the guy, but can't shoot for ####. I was going to make some reloads for his deer rifle, to give him a more accurate load. I have had good luck coming up with a decent load pretty easy with many rifles. Long story short, I tried a random load and it shot perhaps 1"- 1.5"@ 100 meters (just an example). Same gun, same load shot 3"+ with him on the trigger. Just saying.
 
saskgunowner101 said:
I might offer another thought here. Some people tend to look outward instead of inward when there's a problem and blame the gun. Good example is my nephew, love the guy, but can't shoot for ####. I was going to make some reloads for his deer rifle, to give him a more accurate load. I have had good luck coming up with a decent load pretty easy with many rifles. Long story short, I tried a random load and it shot perhaps 1"- 1.5"@ 100 meters (just an example). Same gun, same load shot 3"+ with him on the trigger. Just saying.
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I wouldn't necessarily blame the shooter. Some guns are more accurate than others and even brand new guns can group poorly. Your definition accurate and his are probably quite different. The model in question is probably not the most accurate in the first place. If the gun has been modified I would be hesitant to take it back. Careless cleaning can also cause damage. Do you know what the grouping was like when you had it?
 
1000yards said:
So I have heard back from him, he switched the stock and used a vortex scope, it had never had a scope on it before so I'm worried about the rail from factory, he tried a few different types of ammo and had tried a bore sighter and iron sights.
Asked if he tried adjusting the tension ring. He says he tried it off a rest and tried cleaning it. Had a fellow with him that is more familiar with rifles also.
I had it posted on this forum and a local outdoors one too and it sold on the other one so I am not sure if he is on here also or not.
His explanation of the groups is a bit hard for me to understand, but it sounds like he was using a 3 inch target and tried a 16x16" piece if cardboard and was getting some fliers that were not even hitting that at 25m

Asked him how I can resolve it to his liking and I'll go from there.
I'll go from there and see, thanks for the suggestions and help!
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Ask him if he's getting oblong holes from the bullets tumbling. I had a similar experience with my 10/22 TD. Was grouping 2" at 25 yards and then suddenly started spraying out 8" groups with flyers out 24"s. Turned out I had leaded up my barrel running through a couple hundred rounds of Thunderbolts. Couldn't even get a brass brush through the barrel. Used a brass rod to push out a sleeve of built up lead, gave it a good cleaning and it was back to normal. Where is your buyer located? If he's in the GVRD area I could take a look at it for you.
 
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Where is this guy located? I am sure he is near someone that has posted to this thread. Get him to get hold of one of us and let us take a look at gun and see what the problem is.
 
Tom E Gun said:
Just because you sold someone a used rifle, you are under no obligation to teach the buyer how to use it properly. My answer would be;

"Thats unfortunate, to the best of my knowledge there is nothing wrong with the rifle, if you disagree please return it and I will refund the purchase price."

I would rather refund the purchase and check out the rifle myself, then resell it once any possible issues are resolved, rather than try to diagnose a possibly non-existent problem long distance.
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Best advice here. Thats what i have done in the past. As long as he didn't damage it somehow. Either way. Refund and resell.
 
Further to the ammo issue...
I have an old mossberg semi auto.
'groups are dime sized at 50 yards using standard velocity ammo.
Switch to stingers or other Hyper velocity ammo and the groups can't even be measured without a yard stick..
 
AWOL said:
How about this:

I am confident there is nothing wrong with the gun. You bought it at your own risk. If you wish to return it and get your money back. I will take it at 20% less for my trouble and you pay shipping. Seems fair to me.
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IF it hasn't been monkeyed. Some people are absolute butchers to anything they touch. Vises, vise-grips, hammers, you name it, it's been done and IS done all the time by hacks.

Shipped first, money on verification.


Additionally, as has already been said some people just change their mind (or find another gun they want instead, or get schitt from their wife).

Changing your mind is not part of a deal process unless specified before the deal is done. I put that kind of stuff in writing.

The worst are people who are just fickle and never satisfied.
 
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Why do people presume that there is a "return policy" on a private sale of a used firearm or any item for that matter? This doesn't make sense to me. If the rifle was working when you sold it then I say you(the seller) are off the hook. Sounds like a case of buyers remorse, or he modified it and is now looking to get his money back after he broke it, or he simply had unreal expectations of its performance. My opinion...

MM
 
Sounds like buyers remorse. He's got the gun. It shoots.
Let him list and sell it, if he's unhappy. Welcome to the real world of buying used.

At the end of the day if you know you've done right, you will sleep just fine.
 
1000yards said:
it sounds like he was using a 3 inch target and tried a 16x16" piece if cardboard and was getting some fliers that were not even hitting that at 25m
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It really sounds like the person you sold the rifle to doesn't have much experience with rifles.

I really like the previous suggestion to have another CGN member in the buyer's area check it out and see what the deal is. I'd say its 99.9% chance that either the guy can't shoot or he bubba'd the rifle somehow. An experienced shooter would get to the bottom of this pretty fast. I know I would be willing to help out if this was in my area.
 
nobody has considered that there could be something wrong with the gun.
could be a lemon, could be damaged by improper cleaning or a bad job with some sort of modification.
have not met the buyer or seller and have not used the gun
50 rounds through the fire arn isn `t much to really get to know it.
and sounds like it is on at least the third owner
 
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Ummmmmmmmm, why doesn't he contact Ruger?

If it was a retail store he walked into and bought from they would tell him to take a walk and/or contact the manufacturer.

I want to return this used half ton, it burns to much fuel IMO. ;)
 
There is no warranty or returns on used items unless stated so, unless you were misleading or hiding problems when advertising. Especially not after modifications have been done to it. The guy probably doesn't know how to shoot, or is just having buyers remorse and regretting the purchase he made. Tell him that the the sale is final and give him a few things to check over like other people have said : eg) stock is installed correct, scope is mounted properly, he isn't using a 20$ airsoft scope, etc etc and tell him other than that there is nothing you can do for him unfortunately. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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