Some datas and readings about the 9,3x62

BL-C(2) works, but the velocity may or not be there, depending on rifle/barrel. But so does Varget, 3031, H-335, H-380, RL15, W748, IMR/H 4895 and many others...
You may find that many datas are pretty optimistic.

The most accurate bullet in all of my rifles is the AccuBond 250, it's a pretty long bullet for the weight and all my rifles eat it like hell. Same goes for my X57s....
The .270 Speer isn't bad, I've harvested many games with it (mostly bear and moose), but so does many other bullits.. .366" is kind of magic and I still have to find a bullet that doesn't shoot great at least.
I personally have no use for .366 cast bullets, but you will find a bunch of guys using them on "castbullits" and other forums.
 
outdoors said:
Thanks for the cast and 270 Speer experiences. I've read recently that Ted found the 270 Matrix more accurate but I must admit that it's funny boat tail shape would worry me if it hit heavy bone hard and accuracy is different in every rifle. I have zero experience with it and Ted likes it, so it mist be good. I think that I will get off the fence and order some Speeds. I tried Epps today and while they had Speeds, they didn't have dies or cases. Too bad Tradeex is down for a few weeks while moving.
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Ted shot that big grizz with the Matrix. His word and that bear are plenty of recommendation for me. No wonder he gave me those Normas...he'd already found the ultimate bullet!
 
BigUglyMan said:
Ted shot that big grizz with the Matrix. His word and that bear are plenty of recommendation for me. No wonder he gave me those Normas...he'd already found the ultimate bullet!
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Ted is soon to convince me too to try the Matrix thing but i like the nosler partition in 286 grains and i had good success with the norma alaska again i dont think there is a bad bullet in the 9,3s except the TUG in 293 grains ....
BUM the Norma you used woks great with your bison ...

all the best.
 
Last weekend, I went to Marshall's house, bought 200 Matrix bullets. He is a great guy. Knowing that I need them for grizzly hunt, he made the bullets in 3 days. We even talked about Ted. He suggested that I ask Ted for loading data for 270 grain RBT. So far, I might just try the BL C(2) using the hodgon data. I will test them on Island black bears before I go to Yukon border for my first time grizzly hunt.

BTW, are there many grizzlies at coal river water shed? I mean BC side of the river
 
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BigUglyMan said:
Ted shot that big grizz with the Matrix. His word and that bear are plenty of recommendation for me. No wonder he gave me those Normas...he'd already found the ultimate bullet!
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Actually, I had not used the Matrix yet, when I gave those to you. Bought the first box the next year.

Here's the bullet from that grizz, broke near shoulder, chopped up two vertebrae, broke the off shoulder and stopped.

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Over 90% weight retention.

Ted
 
c-fbmi said:
The 270 gn Speer is my only bullet of choice for my 9.3X62, it's construction is perfectly suited to the velocities and it performs exceptionally, both on light game and heavy boned game. I haven't tried the matrix as I have a good supply of Speers and a very good load both accuracy and velocity wise. I did try the 250 AB but I didn't want to use that light a bullet in the 9.3, the 250 is much better suited to 33 and 35 bore size, likewise I didn't feel the need for 286 or 300 gn as my 37 and 41 bore rifles do this weight range better.
I have only taken one animal with mine, but it was the largest game animal in NA.................Atlantic Walrus. Couldn't ask for better bullet performance, I spined him just back of the head at about 50 mtrs. Recovered bullet showed textbook expansion and weighed about 150 gns IIRC. This would have to be about a worst case scenario for a bullet, impact at virtually muzzle velocity into extremely heavy hide, muscle and bone on a 4000 lb animal, and yet it mushroomed perfectly and retained over 50% of its original weight and the lead core is still welded to the petals, just as Speer advertises. Ted has shot a lot of thinner skinned game with this bullet and doesn't have a bad word to say or a bad experience to relate with the Speer 270 gn. I took a large Yukon moose with one of his 9.3s and a 270 gn Speer, but ended up gutting in the dark so I don't believe we recovered the bullets..........2 shots ......2 hits..........still jumped in the lake to expire, DAMN, cold, dark loooooong, night. Recovering bullets was way down the priority list, at that point.
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Actually, we did find one of the bullets the next day.



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Thanks Ted, both bullets look like they provided fine performance. I'm a big fan of the traditional Nosler Partition but for my use with the 9.3 a cheaper bullet like the Speer should do fine.

I have been fortunate to be involved in quite a few moose hunts back when I lived in NL for 17 years and it is amazing how they can use their last breath to find a hole or pond to fall in! The last two I shot got it right between the eyes (45-70 & 300 H&H) and dropped where they stood. I'm not normally a fan of head shots but we were able to stalk close in both cases.

Only trouble that I'm having now is finding a dealer with 9.3x62 dies and components in stock while Tradeex is closed down. Any suggestions?
 
medvedqc.....pls tell me more about your experiences with the 293gr. TUG bullet, I just bought a partial box of original Brenneke 9.3 TUGs at a gun show, $10 for 30 bullets. I had read about them previously but really know nothing about them.
 
Hey Ted, that bullet looks just like the one from my walrus. I'd forgotten we found that the next day, but now that you brought it up I remember you found it the next morning, when we quartered that big donkey. I also seem to remember that it was right after a huge breakfast feast of fresh lake trout and eggs and toast, or was that the following morning? I may give those Matrix a try this summer, what the heck, I can always go back to my proven Speer load.

Douglas
 
D-Man said:
medvedqc.....pls tell me more about your experiences with the 293gr. TUG bullet, I just bought a partial box of original Brenneke 9.3 TUGs at a gun show, $10 for 30 bullets. I had read about them previously but really know nothing about them.
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D-Man,

my experience with them is from Europe i never used on our game here so take with some salt and pepper ... in the 9,3x62 and 9,3x74r they were pencilling (SP?) the young boars and not expanding even in meeting the scapula or the blade shoulder. but when met a bigger boar 150 kgs starting to be a good one then it works same with the roe deer and red deer again works great on bigger than smaller ...

i always love the TIG and TUG because we didnt have much access on Nosler Partition. they were good in the 30's but since there is better choice but again in a 9,3s except the 9,3x64 or 66 Magnum not a bullet is not really working. im pretty that even the Hornady in 286 is working even if some report not.

all the best and enjoy the 9,3s.
 
286 Hornady holds together better than the PPU. But, at the end, both do the job as they're intended to.
 
That is not the reports I have been getting. In fact, there are a lot of people complaining that the 286 gr Hornady does not hold together well at all.

Hornady has definitely changed something in their bullet design. The 30 cal Interlocks are certainly not the bullets they used to be.

Ted
 
I'll find my pics of media tested PPU's and will post it later. The result is that performances are, say unequal. I don't have pics of the Hornady, but the perfromance was more even.

I have this test result pic below; in that case, the PPU was pretty good.

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Never said they won't... I said they don't hold together as well as others :)
I never recovered one from any games I shot with it.

Below; first one is a Barnes TSX that went through thick cardboard, three others are PPU bullets;

As you can see, the first one held together, but did lose quite a bit of material (don't have to weight in hands, but it's more than the one above), the second one retains a lots of weight, but the core is totally out of the jacket and the third one also have it's core out of the jacket, but have lost a significant amount of weight...

What decided me to test them is when I found multiple exist holes from a game (a black bear), which was something I already saw in the past. This tells me they sometimes, but not always, separate after impact. After this, I decedied to use them mostly in the X57, but that's a personal choice. Still I think they are good bullets for the price, but they're definitely not a premium bullet.



The AccuBond, on the other hand, repeatedly mushrooms exactly the same way as in the above picture. I tested many other bullets and did not experienced that kind of separation.

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Roger that. It's not the Accubond I have been hearing the complaints about. It's the Hornady.

Good pictures. What medium did you catch the bullets in after they went through the heavy cardboard?

Ted
 
The partition and accubond have been my go to hunting bullets for some time now, looks like I'll have to try these matrix bullets.
 
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