Sterling Arms International R18 Mk3 Part 1 Review - Specifications and Initial Impressions
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. Those who wish to commit mass murder will always find a way - either through an illegal firearm or an alternative means such as a knife or even a white rental van (10 killed in Toronto). The lieberals know this, of course.
As for reversing the prohibitions, I believe that the Conservatives will simply rescind each of the applicable OICs rather than cherry-pick their way through the list of prohibited firearms. A total rewrite of the Firearms Act would be the ideal outcome, however we may not see much more than a reversion to where we were before the Lieberal changes coupled with adoption of the "Simplified Classificaiton System". IF the Conservatives adopt the Simplified Classification System as defined by the National Firearms Association, that could very well be a great thing for us. Firearms would be classified based solely on their mechanical capabilities and characteristics, NOT on a "scary" or "intimidating" appearance.
That would cost more than a new 5 round mag though.
That OIC, prior to being ordered, required legislative changes passed by Harper in Parliament and Senate, as you could not down-classify guns at the time, only increase or make stricter the classification. Liberals changed it back, no down classification possible, PP would need the Parliament and Senate to change the Firearms Act again to make down-classification to non-restricted possible. He may just change the Amnesty at first to allow people to use the guns as they were being used, while he makes the required changes to reverse the OICs.
Yes, but there are other classifications that arent allowed to be " less restricted" unless the House passes actual legislation to do so. Something the Libs brewed up to make life harder for minority CPC governments
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man can we just take this post down. Its too heartbreaking
I think that the R18 Mk3 has enough going for it, that it will fare well in the Canadian market once the word gets out. That of course is entirely dependent upon the rifles demonstrating adequate reliablity and accuracy during the pre-production test-firing. If the rifle performs well during testing then there is no reason that it cannot compete favourably with other firearms at the $1800 price-point. AR15s are all well and good, and I own several in different calibres and Barrel lengths. That said, once you've fired an AR you've fired an AR. I for one, find that variety is the spice of life and prefer to sample as many firerarms as I possibly can across a (hopefully) broad spectrum. The Mk3 definitely has a place within my collection as an HK 416/SIG MCX hybrid design.
You are only half right. Yes the liberals changed that part of the law but it it is for items that are prohibited or restricted based on the Firearms act NOT prescribed by legislation. For example:
All Handguns are restricted or prohibited under the Act.
Under the previous legislation, an OIC could prescribe a certain handgun as Non Restricted despite it being a handgun. This power was removed.
In the case of the OICs, these guns meet the R/NR definitions and are only prohibited because of Regs. The next gov can repeal the regs.
Oh yea, of little faith!
We will 100% see the R18 Mk3 come to market just as soon as the 5 Dec 2024 OIC is rescinded. SAI's Assembly Line in Calgary is currently sitting on enough parts to put together the first batch of 200 or so rifles. with a full-production rate of 200 rifles per month once things are up and fully operational. In the interim while we await a Conservative Majority government, SAI has decided to market the R9 PCC, The R9 was not named in the 5 Dec OIC (no FRT as of yet), so it is good to go for manufacture and sale in NR configuration with an 18.5" counter-bored Barrel.
The Restricted 10.5" Barrelled version of the R9 will be submitted for an FRT once a friendly government is in control of the RCMP SFSS Lab and after certain obstructionist individuals have been "retired" from that organization. The same timeline applies to restricted variants of the R18 Mk3, which will require an FRT for the rifle from the SFSS Lab before short Restricted-length barrels can be fitted.
.All of the above to say that current reports of the R18 Mk3's "death" are greatly exaggerrated! Just as soon as possible, the R18 Assembly Line will start producing rifles and carbines for public sale. In the interim, there is the NR R9 PCC to enjoy at the range and in the woods.
realistically speaking who is going to choose a 1800 dollar rifle with less parts compatibility over a 1000 dollar AR? or a non restricted alternative at the same pricepoint of the R18 MK3? I bought a lot of expensive gucci rifles after the May 2020 OIC some of which I will keep but the others are being sold the second the OIC is lifted.
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A ton of proprietary parts too, whereas others that use AR parts can be milspec and cheap
That would require the AR to become non-restricted, in which case I would agree.
If the AR remains restricted, the non-restricted R18 will sell like hotcakes. In comparison to the other rifle, the R18 is like 1/3 the price and so will wildly outsell it.
Who is going to buy an R18 Mk3? Simple - me and firearms owners/collectors like me who believe that variety in firearms is the spice of life. Once you buy a $1000 AR, outfit it with another $1000 of optics and accessories, and then go fire it a bunch of times, what then? Personally, I enjoy comparing and contrasting different, yet similar platforms in the never-ending quest to develop my ultimate Battle Rifle and Carbine builds. I like knowing what is available on the market and how it stacks up against the competition. To that end, my first purchase when the bans are lifted and imports begin again will most likely be a SIG Spear (H) in 6.5 CM in order to assess the new US Service Rifle and add it to my collection of key military Small Arms designs of the latter 20th and early 21st Centuries.
YMMV and that is fine. For folks like myself with modest collections, the R18 Mk3 will be a welcome addition that takes the best of the HK 416 Gas System and the SIG Spear/MCX Operating System to develop a new hybrid design ideally suited to military service (with appropriate modifications).
Unlikely for the reasons stated above. The AR quickly becomes boring and any new ATRS MS will cost twice what the R19 does. Your clearly expressed hatred for JR Cox and his buisness ventures is well documented by this point, and your deepseated negative bias clearly colours your perception of things. I predict that the R18 Mk3 will do just fine on the Canadian market once its reliability and accuracy are confiirmed and word gets out to that effect.
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That's fair, a lot of people like to collect cool firearms that were designed for one reason or another and the R18 MK3 is a cool gun to come out of necessity due to dumbass politicians.
ATRS and Stag 10 were both non restricted and were absolutely cherry. I miss them both dearly and if the prices are even just a few hundred more, the parts compatibility I think will sway enough folks. We can only hope though, I don't think we'll hear much for the first couple years with the state of things here and globally.
